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Ask a Vet
Author: TriSec
Date: 01/08/2008 11:40:16
Good Morning. Today is our 1,756th day in Iraq.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 3911
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3772
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3450
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3052
Since Election (1/31/05): 2474
Other Coalition Troops: 307
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 474
We find this morning's cost of war rolling through:
$ 483, 920, 300, 000 .00
Checking in with our friends at IAVA, we find the last words of a warrior. Andrew Olmsted was a writer and a family man, an ordinary citizen caught up in the war in Iraq. He was killed in combat on January 3. IAVA had this to say.
Here's Andy's last post.
Continued....and well worth your time to read.
It's election day in New Hampshire: we'll have a new president in 378 days.
We'll start this morning as we always do, with the latest casualty figures from the warron terra, courtesy of Antiwar.com:
American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 3911
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 3772
Since Capture of Saddam (12/13/03): 3450
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3052
Since Election (1/31/05): 2474
Other Coalition Troops: 307
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 474
We find this morning's cost of war rolling through:
Checking in with our friends at IAVA, we find the last words of a warrior. Andrew Olmsted was a writer and a family man, an ordinary citizen caught up in the war in Iraq. He was killed in combat on January 3. IAVA had this to say.
“I am leaving this message for you because it appears I must leave sooner than I intended. I would have preferred to say this in person, but since I cannot, let me say it here.” G’Kar, Babylon 5
“Only the dead have seen the end of war.” Plato*
Andrew Olmsted began the final blog entry of his life with these two quotes. Andy was killed in Iraq on Thursday, and he left this devastatingly beautiful and profound final piece with a friend, to be posted in the event of his death. Please take a moment to honor his memory, and to read the last post of this life. I read it last night, and it crushed me. And I think every single person in America should read it.
A very good man is gone. His death is a terrible loss for his family, the Army–and for our country. Andy was the epitome of the American citizen-soldier, and a hell of a good writer. He was honorable, thoughtful and incredibly articulate. And he served America not only as a soldier, but also as voice of conscience in these incredibly turbulent times.
I never met the man, but wish I could have. After you read the piece, I think it will be hard not to feel the same way. And my thoughts and prayers are with him and his family. But I hope you will join me in doing what Andy asked us to do:
“So if you’re up for that, put on a little 80s music (preferably vintage 1980-1984), grab a Coke and have a drink with me. If you have it, throw ‘Freedom Isn’t Free’ from the Team America soundtrack in; if you can’t laugh at that song, I think you need to lighten up a little. I’m dead, but if you’re reading this, you’re not, so take a moment to enjoy that happy fact.*“
Rest in peace, Andy.
(If you comment, please respect Andy’s wish that his death not be politicized, and refrain from any political rants.)
Here's Andy's last post.
This is an entry I would have preferred not to have published, but there are limits to what we can control in life, and apparently I have passed one of those limits. And so, like G'Kar, I must say here what I would much prefer to say in person. I want to thank hilzoy for putting it up for me. It's not easy asking anyone to do something for you in the event of your death, and it is a testament to her quality that she didn't hesitate to accept the charge. As with many bloggers, I have a disgustingly large ego, and so I just couldn't bear the thought of not being able to have the last word if the need arose. Perhaps I take that further than most, I don't know. I hope so. It's frightening to think there are many people as neurotic as I am in the world. In any case, since I won't get another chance to say what I think, I wanted to take advantage of this opportunity. Such as it is...
...What I don't want this to be is a chance for me, or anyone else, to be maudlin. I'm dead. That sucks, at least for me and my family and friends. But all the tears in the world aren't going to bring me back, so I would prefer that people remember the good things about me rather than mourning my loss. (If it turns out a specific number of tears will, in fact, bring me back to life, then by all means, break out the onions.) I had a pretty good life, as I noted above. Sure, all things being equal I would have preferred to have more time, but I have no business complaining with all the good fortune I've enjoyed in my life. So if you're up for that, put on a little 80s music (preferably vintage 1980-1984), grab a Coke and have a drink with me. If you have it, throw 'Freedom Isn't Free' from the Team America soundtrack in; if you can't laugh at that song, I think you need to lighten up a little. I'm dead, but if you're reading this, you're not, so take a moment to enjoy that happy fact....
Continued....and well worth your time to read.
It's election day in New Hampshire: we'll have a new president in 378 days.
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Comment by 
velveeta jones on 01/08/2008 14:13:03
velveeta jones on 01/08/2008 14:13:03
Morning my fellow patriots/lovers of freedom/haters of America ("some say").
I have a job interview today! Would it be wrong if I did this at the interview?
I have a job interview today! Would it be wrong if I did this at the interview?
Comment by 
Raine on 01/08/2008 14:26:03
Raine on 01/08/2008 14:26:03
Heya Velveeta! would be fine if you are interviewing as a cabaret dancer! Good luck!
would be fine if you are interviewing as a cabaret dancer! Good luck!
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 14:29:43
Raine on 01/08/2008 14:29:43
Dixville Notch got the voting under way early this morning... Like at 12:01, the voting began...
The results:
* John McCain 4 votes
* Mitt Romney 2 votes
* Rudy Giuliani 1 vote
* Barack Obama 7 votes
* John Edwards 2 votes
* Bill Richardson 1 vote
The results:
* John McCain 4 votes
* Mitt Romney 2 votes
* Rudy Giuliani 1 vote
* Barack Obama 7 votes
* John Edwards 2 votes
* Bill Richardson 1 vote
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 14:30:34
Raine on 01/08/2008 14:30:34
:cry: RIP Andrew Olmstead...
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 14:32:28
Raine on 01/08/2008 14:32:28
and the other town that votes early, Hart:
In Hart's Location...
McCain 6 votes
Mike Huckabee 5 votes
Ron Paul 4 votes
Romney 1 vote
Obama 9 votes
Hillary Clinton 3 votes
Edwards 1 vote
In Hart's Location...
McCain 6 votes
Mike Huckabee 5 votes
Ron Paul 4 votes
Romney 1 vote
Obama 9 votes
Hillary Clinton 3 votes
Edwards 1 vote
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 14:34:44
From the Concord Monitor
Raine on 01/08/2008 14:34:44
Long-shot GOP hopeful Rep. Duncan Hunter attended the vote in Dixville Notch, where results were announced before 12:06 a.m. in a small room packed with TV cameras and photographers.
"It epitomizes people-to-people politicking," Hunter said minutes before the votes were cast.
Hunter received no votes in either town.
State law allows towns with fewer than 100 people to open at midnight and to close as soon as all registered voters have cast ballots. Hart's Location Selectman Mark Dindorf said getting 100 percent voter turnout was the most exciting aspect of the event.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 14:35:08
Raine on 01/08/2008 14:35:08
SSG!
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 14:36:28
Raine on 01/08/2008 14:36:28
She says the Same thing as Obama... WELLLLLLL............. John Edwards doesn't say the same thing.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 14:37:29
Raine on 01/08/2008 14:37:29
Muskey got a snowflake baby in his his eye.
Comment by 
livingonli on 01/08/2008 14:41:13
livingonli on 01/08/2008 14:41:13
Good morning all. 
Got up in time to hear ssg's call.
I caught the Bill-O bit on last night's Countdown repeat. It was a dee-light.
So, did someone mention Loofah or Falafel?
Got up in time to hear ssg's call.
I caught the Bill-O bit on last night's Countdown repeat. It was a dee-light.
So, did someone mention Loofah or Falafel?
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 14:45:27
livingonli on 01/08/2008 14:45:27
Did anyone see the footage of Sean Hannity being chased back crying to his hotel by Ron Paul fans?
Comment by 
BobR on 01/08/2008 14:50:54
BobR on 01/08/2008 14:50:54
Morning folks... :coffee:
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 14:53:25
Posted it on the MB. I think I am the only one who found it disturbing...
Raine on 01/08/2008 14:53:25
Quote by livingonli: Did anyone see the footage of Sean Hannity being chased back crying to his hotel by Ron Paul fans?
Posted it on the MB. I think I am the only one who found it disturbing...
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 14:54:29
livingonli on 01/08/2008 14:54:29
For Hillary; 
Who thought it was creepy when she did the Dick Cheney scare everyone about the terrorists bit? Was she reading a Ghouilaini speech?
Who thought it was creepy when she did the Dick Cheney scare everyone about the terrorists bit? Was she reading a Ghouilaini speech?
Comment by 
starling310 on 01/08/2008 14:56:22
starling310 on 01/08/2008 14:56:22
I'm sorry, but Boys sometimes don't get the crying thing. My voice gets shaky and I get choked up sometimes without meaning to, or being able to control it. And, the only reason I can think of that it happens, is cuz I'M A GIRL! And, I just don't know if boys trully "get" what that feels like.
Comment by BobR on 01/08/2008 14:58:32
Hey - I've cried (as an adult) and I'm not afraid to admit it...
: puffs out chest: :grabs crotch:
BobR on 01/08/2008 14:58:32
Quote by starling310: I'm sorry, but Boys sometimes don't get the crying thing. My voice gets shaky and I get choked up sometimes without meaning to, or being able to control it. And, the only reason I can think of that it happens, is cuz I'M A GIRL! And, I just don't know if boys trully "get" what that feels like.
Hey - I've cried (as an adult) and I'm not afraid to admit it...
: puffs out chest: :grabs crotch:
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:03:12
I don't doubt it Bobber.
But, I think. . . and I am not trying to be sexist. . . women tend to get "choked up" more frequently than men. It's quite annoying actually. Sometimes I wish I could avoid it, because I feel like it makes me look weak, or weakens my argument at the very least.
I suppose I should ask, does that happen to men?
I mean if you are relaying a scene from a movie to a friend, does it get you choked up? If you talk about the financial stresses of your life, does your voice shake? Do you literally feel like crying?
And, I am a bit of a hard ass folks. . . Sometimes it comes out of nowhere.
I think to myself "Why the hell am I getting emotional about this?"
starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:03:12
Quote by BobR:
Hey - I've cried (as an adult) and I'm not afraid to admit it...
: puffs out chest: :grabs crotch:
I don't doubt it Bobber.
But, I think. . . and I am not trying to be sexist. . . women tend to get "choked up" more frequently than men. It's quite annoying actually. Sometimes I wish I could avoid it, because I feel like it makes me look weak, or weakens my argument at the very least.
I suppose I should ask, does that happen to men?
I mean if you are relaying a scene from a movie to a friend, does it get you choked up? If you talk about the financial stresses of your life, does your voice shake? Do you literally feel like crying?
And, I am a bit of a hard ass folks. . . Sometimes it comes out of nowhere.
I think to myself "Why the hell am I getting emotional about this?"
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:07:19
I get the crying thing, what I do not get with Hillary, is why now? Why the whole "change" comment? Some females DO cry, and truthfully some do not. (and As a side not, I have a certain Madonna song now running thru my head..
What it feels like for a girl. )
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:07:19
Quote by starling310: I'm sorry, but Boys sometimes don't get the crying thing. My voice gets shaky and I get choked up sometimes without meaning to, or being able to control it. And, the only reason I can think of that it happens, is cuz I'M A GIRL! And, I just don't know if boys trully "get" what that feels like.
I have a certain Madonna song now running thru my head..
What it feels like for a girl. )
Comment by BobR on 01/08/2008 15:07:29
Sometimes, but not usually. If I'm talking about financial stresses I usually just feel depressed or scared.
BobR on 01/08/2008 15:07:29
Quote by starling310:
I don't doubt it Bobber.
But, I think. . . and I am not trying to be sexist. . . women tend to get "choked up" more frequently than men. It's quite annoying actually. Sometimes I wish I could avoid it, because I feel like it makes me look weak, or weakens my argument at the very least.
I suppose I should ask, does that happen to men?
I mean if you are relaying a scene from a movie to a friend, does it get you choked up? If you talk about the financial stresses of your life, does your voice shake? Do you literally feel like crying?
Sometimes, but not usually. If I'm talking about financial stresses I usually just feel depressed or scared.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 01/08/2008 15:08:29
wickedpam on 01/08/2008 15:08:29
MOrning! :hug:
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:08:48
Yeah, Hillary is a separate animal.
I just feel like maybe BOYS and GIRLS won't see eye to eye on this ridiculous topic because there is a different "frame of reference" based on experience.
starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:08:48
Quote by Raine:I get the crying thing, what I do not get with Hillary, is why now? Why the whole "change" comment? Some females DO cry, and truthfully some do not. (and As a side not,Quote by starling310: I'm sorry, but Boys sometimes don't get the crying thing. My voice gets shaky and I get choked up sometimes without meaning to, or being able to control it. And, the only reason I can think of that it happens, is cuz I'M A GIRL! And, I just don't know if boys trully "get" what that feels like.
What it feels like for a girl. )
Yeah, Hillary is a separate animal.
I just feel like maybe BOYS and GIRLS won't see eye to eye on this ridiculous topic because there is a different "frame of reference" based on experience.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/08/2008 15:09:23
velveeta jones on 01/08/2008 15:09:23
Yikes, I do have a friend who wears ass-less chaps! He actually wore them to a fancy party I hosted in his honor. (Then he went to a leather bar).
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/08/2008 15:10:15
velveeta jones on 01/08/2008 15:10:15
I'm off...............see ya'lls later.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:10:39
Most def That is very true. I mean I get teary watching TV when I see a heartwarming story. Woman are more expressive with emotions, for the most part, that is how we are raised to be.
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:10:39
Quote by starling310:Yeah, Hillary is a separate animal. I just feel like maybe BOYS and GIRLS won't see eye to eye on this ridiculous topic because there is a different "frame of reference" based on experience.Quote by Raine:I get the crying thing, what I do not get with Hillary, is why now? Why the whole "change" comment? Some females DO cry, and truthfully some do not. (and As a side not,Quote by starling310: I'm sorry, but Boys sometimes don't get the crying thing. My voice gets shaky and I get choked up sometimes without meaning to, or being able to control it. And, the only reason I can think of that it happens, is cuz I'M A GIRL! And, I just don't know if boys trully "get" what that feels like.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:11:56
:xfingers:
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:11:56
Quote by velveeta jones: I'm off...............see ya'lls later.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:12:38
MORNING!
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:12:38
Quote by wickedpam: MOrning! :hug:
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:12:53
It's not expressive by choice all the time though, which is I think is where most Men can't relate.
starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:12:53
Quote by Raine:Most def That is very true. I mean I get teary watching TV when I see a heartwarming story. Woman are more expressive with emotions, for the most part, that is how we are raised to be.Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine:I get the crying thing, what I do not get with Hillary, is why now? Why the whole "change" comment? Some females DO cry, and truthfully some do not. (and As a side not,Quote by starling310: I'm sorry, but Boys sometimes don't get the crying thing. My voice gets shaky and I get choked up sometimes without meaning to, or being able to control it. And, the only reason I can think of that it happens, is cuz I'M A GIRL! And, I just don't know if boys trully "get" what that feels like.
What it feels like for a girl. )
Yeah, Hillary is a separate animal.
I just feel like maybe BOYS and GIRLS won't see eye to eye on this ridiculous topic because there is a different "frame of reference" based on experience.
It's not expressive by choice all the time though, which is I think is where most Men can't relate.
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:13:08
starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:13:08
GOOD LUCK VELVEETA!!!!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/08/2008 15:14:21
Someone's full of wheaties this morning :p
wickedpam on 01/08/2008 15:14:21
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam: MOrning! :hug:
MORNING!
Someone's full of wheaties this morning :p
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 15:19:37
It keeps you going. Good morning, Mala.
Good luck, Velveeta.
livingonli on 01/08/2008 15:19:37
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam: MOrning! :hug:
MORNING!
Someone's full of wheaties this morning :p
It keeps you going. Good morning, Mala.
Good luck, Velveeta.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/08/2008 15:29:37
wickedpam on 01/08/2008 15:29:37
Heyya Liv, Raine, everyone!
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:32:26
Big shocker!
I have been smoking more, eating bread and cheese, and drinking lots of wine lately. . . .keeps ya healthy.
starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:32:26
Quote by livingonli: France Best, US worst in preventable deaths.
Big shocker!
I have been smoking more, eating bread and cheese, and drinking lots of wine lately. . . .keeps ya healthy.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:34:17
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:34:17
That is ShelaghC!!!! HELLO SHELAGHC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:35:31
starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:35:31
I could fake crying, but I cannot fake NOT crying.
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 15:39:48
You gotta get her to come to the blog and come back to the message board.
BTW, can you find on line where Hillary invoked Al-Qaeda at her New Hampshire speech (as seen on last night's Countdown) I want to point it out to someone.
livingonli on 01/08/2008 15:39:48
Quote by Raine: That is ShelaghC!!!! HELLO SHELAGHC!!!!!!!!!!!!
You gotta get her to come to the blog and come back to the message board.
BTW, can you find on line where Hillary invoked Al-Qaeda at her New Hampshire speech (as seen on last night's Countdown) I want to point it out to someone.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:41:53
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:41:53
I look forward to Supernami Tuesday.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:43:15
I can go look a bit. ShelaghC DID post on the board, and she is a member of the blog. (perhaps someone can poke her with a PM and get her over here?) She made a pretty big annoucnement.
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:43:15
Quote by livingonli:You gotta get her to come to the blog and come back to the message board. BTW, can you find on line where Hillary invoked Al-Qaeda at her New Hampshire speech (as seen on last night's Countdown) I want to point it out to someone.Quote by Raine: That is ShelaghC!!!! HELLO SHELAGHC!!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 15:44:35
That's the day I vote.
livingonli on 01/08/2008 15:44:35
Quote by Raine: I look forward to Supernami Tuesday.
That's the day I vote.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:46:22
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:46:22
....and when you speak of me speak well 
Comment by 
TriSec on 01/08/2008 15:46:25
TriSec on 01/08/2008 15:46:25
:ph34r:
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:49:33
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:49:33
Thank you caller!!! John Edwards won't do that!
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:50:07
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:50:07
MOMMA!!!!!!! THE DRUG COMPANIES ARE NOT IRAN AND IRAQ!
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:50:17
starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:50:17
Oh Darlin' they don't get eaten...they get PAID OFF!
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:55:26
starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:55:26
: jim : "Come on, tart it up. Momma's losin'"
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 15:56:47
Raine on 01/08/2008 15:56:47
More Edwards people need to call!
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:57:29
starling310 on 01/08/2008 15:57:29
I don't get it. . . I hear SO MANY edwards supporters calling Momma, Thom, etc.
Guess they don't live in Iowa.
Guess they don't live in Iowa.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 16:01:19
Raine on 01/08/2008 16:01:19
John EDWARDS!!!!!!!!!!
Comment by TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:13:37
TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:13:37
Ya know, for such an important event happening a mere 30 miles from where I sit, I feel strangely disconnected from the process today...
Mitt is a tool, though.
Mitt is a tool, though.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 16:14:55
Raine on 01/08/2008 16:14:55
shelaghc just got a pm, hopefully she will come over to the blog now!
Comment by wickedpam on 01/08/2008 16:16:20
wickedpam on 01/08/2008 16:16:20
I'm hooked on playing my Wii too.
Comment by TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:24:08
EXCUSE me?????
This is a family blog, WP. :modbat:
TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:24:08
Quote by wickedpam: I'm hooked on playing my Wii too.
EXCUSE me?????
This is a family blog, WP. :modbat:
Comment by BobR on 01/08/2008 16:26:35
BobR on 01/08/2008 16:26:35
ahhhhh.....
Happy Pants!
Happy Pants!
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 16:26:44
Raine on 01/08/2008 16:26:44
BobR your pants just rung.
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:28:33
starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:28:33
*sigh*
wish i had a wii. . .
: gazes longingly out the blog window :
: a single tear rolls down cheek :
wish i had a wii. . .
: gazes longingly out the blog window :
: a single tear rolls down cheek :
Comment by wickedpam on 01/08/2008 16:29:34
wickedpam on 01/08/2008 16:29:34
Quote by TriSec:Quote by wickedpam: I'm hooked on playing my Wii too.
EXCUSE me?????
This is a family blog, WP. :modbat:
Comment by wickedpam on 01/08/2008 16:30:51
I'll share * hands Star my only remote with nunchuck * I only have the Olympics or Zelda to play though.
wickedpam on 01/08/2008 16:30:51
Quote by starling310: *sigh*
wish i had a wii. . .
: gazes longingly out the blog window :
: a single tear rolls down cheek :
I'll share * hands Star my only remote with nunchuck * I only have the Olympics or Zelda to play though.
Comment by BobR on 01/08/2008 16:33:54
You can play with my wii....
:skates off to penalty box:
BobR on 01/08/2008 16:33:54
Quote by starling310: *sigh*
wish i had a wii. . .
: gazes longingly out the blog window :
: a single tear rolls down cheek :
You can play with my wii....
:skates off to penalty box:
Comment by TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:34:03
TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:34:03
Well star...I picked up the Lego Star Wars trilogy game for the ol' PC for xmas.
It's like crack; Javi has had several full-blown tantrums when it's time to turn it off, and his papa also has spent many hours in front of the mosheen blowing things up.
Somehow, it's very therapeutic.
It's like crack; Javi has had several full-blown tantrums when it's time to turn it off, and his papa also has spent many hours in front of the mosheen blowing things up.
Somehow, it's very therapeutic.
Comment by wickedpam on 01/08/2008 16:35:32
wickedpam on 01/08/2008 16:35:32
I've heard that Lego Star Wars was an addictive little game.
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:37:29
: snatches remote : : starts flailing about in front of the tv : : tongue hanging , wincing :
Is this how you do it?
starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:37:29
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by starling310: *sigh*
wish i had a wii. . .
: gazes longingly out the blog window :
: a single tear rolls down cheek :
I'll share * hands Star my only remote with nunchuck * I only have the Olympics or Zelda to play though.
: snatches remote : : starts flailing about in front of the tv : : tongue hanging , wincing :
Is this how you do it?
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:38:19
starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:38:19
Oh Bobber. 
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 16:39:46
livingonli on 01/08/2008 16:39:46
Twice the cleaveage, less the drama queen.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 16:39:52
Raine on 01/08/2008 16:39:52
y'all are a bunch of pervs...
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:41:16
starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:41:16
Gay sounds sleepy.
She's right about EDWARDS though!
She's right about EDWARDS though!
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 16:42:13
Raine on 01/08/2008 16:42:13
Does anyone find it interesting that so many people are saying that Hill and obama say the same thing only obama says it better? Are the dem's settling again? Are tehy being fooled by a good stump speach?
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 16:42:59
livingonli on 01/08/2008 16:42:59
McCain, you gave up on principle when you began kissing Bush's 
in 2004.
in 2004.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 16:43:52
Raine on 01/08/2008 16:43:52
:rofl: Mitt said that he doesn't have lobbyists raising money for him??? That is becasue he is single handedly paying for this campaign out of his pocket!!! NO ONE is donating to his campaign!
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:44:47
: joe biden : Yes.
starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:44:47
Quote by Raine: Are tehy being fooled by a good stump speach?
: joe biden : Yes.
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 16:44:59
Could be. But Edwards has given some good speeches.
And I am still pissed about the media ignoring/dissing my man Kucinich.
livingonli on 01/08/2008 16:44:59
Quote by Raine: Does anyone find it interesting that so many people are saying that Hill and obama say the same thing only obama says it better? Are the dem's settling again? Are tehy being fooled by a good stump speach?
Could be. But Edwards has given some good speeches.
And I am still pissed about the media ignoring/dissing my man Kucinich.
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:49:23
starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:49:23
JOHN EDWARDS IS NOT OLD! For chrissake!
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 16:52:15
:rofl: Brilliant.
Raine on 01/08/2008 16:52:15
Quote by starling310:: joe biden : Yes.Quote by Raine: Are tehy being fooled by a good stump speach?
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 16:53:01
HE is a few months older tham obama fershitsake.
Raine on 01/08/2008 16:53:01
Quote by starling310: JOHN EDWARDS IS NOT OLD! For chrissake!
Comment by TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:54:23
TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:54:23
As much as it pains me to say so, we all need to stop drinking Dunkin' Donuts coffee and eating at Boston Market.
Both are owned by Bain Capitol, of which Mitt is the founder and CEO.
Both are owned by Bain Capitol, of which Mitt is the founder and CEO.
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:55:18
It makes me crazy.
There is no denying that Obama is charasmatic. He gives a more inspiring speech than Edwards. But, being charasmatic doesn't translate into execution of good policy.
starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:55:18
Quote by Raine:Quote by starling310: JOHN EDWARDS IS NOT OLD! For chrissake!
HE is a few months older tham obama fershitsake.
It makes me crazy.
There is no denying that Obama is charasmatic. He gives a more inspiring speech than Edwards. But, being charasmatic doesn't translate into execution of good policy.
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:55:49
Dunkin Donuts coffee is like drinking out of an ashtray.
starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:55:49
Quote by TriSec: As much as it pains me to say so, we all need to stop drinking Dunkin' Donuts coffee and eating at Boston Market.
Both are owned by Bain Capitol, of which Mitt is the founder and CEO.
Dunkin Donuts coffee is like drinking out of an ashtray.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 16:56:16
Raine on 01/08/2008 16:56:16
:clown: men and woman ACTUALLY DO react to exaustion differently.
Comment by TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:56:45
TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:56:45
Obama is 46.
JFK was about that same age.
So was Clinton.
Edwards is 54. (June 10, 1953)
JFK was about that same age.
So was Clinton.
Edwards is 54. (June 10, 1953)
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:57:23
starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:57:23
4th Grader politics. . . tsk, tsk, tsk. . . .that ISN'T NEW!
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:58:42
starling310 on 01/08/2008 16:58:42
Oh...goin' out with Siouxsee and the Banshees. NICE! 
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 16:59:10
Oh dear! throwdown!!! :D
I can do both... oh wait... I already did.
Raine on 01/08/2008 16:59:10
Quote by starling310:Dunkin Donuts coffee is like drinking out of an ashtray.Quote by TriSec: As much as it pains me to say so, we all need to stop drinking Dunkin' Donuts coffee and eating at Boston Market. Both are owned by Bain Capitol, of which Mitt is the founder and CEO.
Comment by TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:59:44
TriSec on 01/08/2008 16:59:44
Don't tell me you drink "Seattle Kool-Aid", Star....
But I suppose good ol' Green Mountain has them both beat.
But I suppose good ol' Green Mountain has them both beat.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:01:12
yuo are helping me here in the call I need to make to Momma. This is very true. I want to know if Momma actually KNOWS what Obama's platform is. Obama is a great campaigner, but, the reality is this, what will he do to change the course of this country?
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:01:12
Quote by starling310:It makes me crazy. There is no denying that Obama is charasmatic. He gives a more inspiring speech than Edwards. But, being charasmatic doesn't translate into execution of good policy.Quote by Raine:HE is a few months older tham obama fershitsake.Quote by starling310: JOHN EDWARDS IS NOT OLD! For chrissake!
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:01:42
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:01:42
Sometimes, and I do NOT dislike Obama, I fear the smoke and mirrors.
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 17:01:52
That is about the level of discourse in this country especially if you look at the MSM's coverage.
livingonli on 01/08/2008 17:01:52
Quote by starling310: 4th Grader politics. . . tsk, tsk, tsk. . . .that ISN'T NEW
That is about the level of discourse in this country especially if you look at the MSM's coverage.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:02:20
Who owns green Mountain?
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:02:20
Quote by TriSec: Don't tell me you drink "Seattle Kool-Aid", Star.... But I suppose good ol' Green Mountain has them both beat.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:03:19
ooopsie! thank you for the corection! And hell... When did 54 become too old? WTF?
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:03:19
Quote by TriSec: Obama is 46. JFK was about that same age. So was Clinton. Edwards is 54. (June 10, 1953)
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:04:24
I am a "Brew at home" Green Mountain girl!
Starbucks is good for 2 things; Lattes and Chai Lattes.
Their coffee is complete rubbish!
starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:04:24
Quote by TriSec: Don't tell me you drink "Seattle Kool-Aid", Star....
But I suppose good ol' Green Mountain has them both beat.
I am a "Brew at home" Green Mountain girl!
Starbucks is good for 2 things; Lattes and Chai Lattes.
Their coffee is complete rubbish!
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:06:25
I love thier Lattes!
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:06:25
Quote by starling310:I am a "Brew at home" Green Mountain girl!Quote by TriSec: Don't tell me you drink "Seattle Kool-Aid", Star.... But I suppose good ol' Green Mountain has them both beat.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:07:39
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:07:39
Settles in chair, puts thinking cap on... opens notebook. I am ready for thom. (oh! that reminds me! I have to send some info to )
)
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:10:05
It appears that they are independtly owned by Green Mountain Coffee Roasters, out of Vermont.
starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:10:05
Quote by Raine:Quote by TriSec: Don't tell me you drink "Seattle Kool-Aid", Star....
But I suppose good ol' Green Mountain has them both beat.
Who owns green Mountain?
It appears that they are independtly owned by Green Mountain Coffee Roasters, out of Vermont.
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:11:20
starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:11:20
Melissa Etheridge is on with Thom!
Sounds like she's backing Dennis.
Sounds like she's backing Dennis.
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 17:12:43
livingonli on 01/08/2008 17:12:43
Melissa is for Kucinich.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:13:38
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:13:38
PM sent
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:16:01
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:16:01
Melissa, I remember seeing most of that logo debate. Dennis took itdowntown. I still believe edwards will not EVER stand in the way of Gay marriage. jeepers. Elizabeth would smack him down.
Comment by TriSec on 01/08/2008 17:17:21
TriSec on 01/08/2008 17:17:21
I've been thinking recently that perhaps with the exception of Hilary, I don't actively dislike any of the democratic candidates for office this time around.
The TriSec's choice seems to be fading fast, but I will gladly put Mr. Edwards as my #2, and I would not have any issues with Obama getting the nomination, either.
I do find it refreshing that there's no *real* anti-candidate out there that I feel that I need to vigorously oppose. Even yielding my personal dislike of Hilary, I don't think any one of them would do a bad job in the Oval Office, but then considering the precedent, it would be very hard to do a worse job than the current occupant.
For the republicans....I'm thinking more and more that McCain is probably the least dangerous. Any of the rest of them, I'd be seriously worried about the darker direction the country would take. McCain, at least, seems to have a brain somewhere in there, even if it has embraced the wrong positions. The other side could do far better, but the country as a whole could do much worse than McCain as the nominee.
The TriSec's choice seems to be fading fast, but I will gladly put Mr. Edwards as my #2, and I would not have any issues with Obama getting the nomination, either.
I do find it refreshing that there's no *real* anti-candidate out there that I feel that I need to vigorously oppose. Even yielding my personal dislike of Hilary, I don't think any one of them would do a bad job in the Oval Office, but then considering the precedent, it would be very hard to do a worse job than the current occupant.
For the republicans....I'm thinking more and more that McCain is probably the least dangerous. Any of the rest of them, I'd be seriously worried about the darker direction the country would take. McCain, at least, seems to have a brain somewhere in there, even if it has embraced the wrong positions. The other side could do far better, but the country as a whole could do much worse than McCain as the nominee.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:17:26
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:17:26
GO Melissa!
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:17:57
starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:17:57
:clap: yay melissa!
See....case in point. ....I have a big 'ole lump in throat after hearing that interview.
Boys? choked up?
Ladies?
See....case in point. ....I have a big 'ole lump in throat after hearing that interview.
Boys? choked up?
Ladies?
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:18:28
yeah, elizabeth will break her foot off in his arse.
starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:18:28
Quote by Raine: Melissa, I remember seeing most of that logo debate. Dennis took itdowntown. I still believe edwards will not EVER stand in the way of Gay marriage. jeepers. Elizabeth would smack him down.
yeah, elizabeth will break her foot off in his arse.
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:19:30
starling310 on 01/08/2008 17:19:30
Well said Tri. . .
I posted, I think it was last night, that this is the first election where I don't feel like I am casting a vote for the "Lesser of two evils."
I posted, I think it was last night, that this is the first election where I don't feel like I am casting a vote for the "Lesser of two evils."
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:23:22
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:23:22
Tri, I love when you post opinions such as these. So very thought provoking. It does to me seem to be the first time on over a decade that we are now choosing a candidadte based upon ideas, and not anti-ideology.
There are NO anti candidates this time. There are NO incumbants. when was the last time that happened in America?
NO incumbants. None.
Comment by Raine on 01/08/2008 17:24:33
I swelled. I did. Passion makes me even more passionate.
Raine on 01/08/2008 17:24:33
Quote by starling310:yay melissa! See....case in point. ....I have a big 'ole lump in throat after hearing that interview. Boys? choked up? Ladies?
Comment by TriSec on 01/08/2008 18:29:13
TriSec on 01/08/2008 18:29:13
Attention People of the Blog! I have an announcement!
TriSec is Listening to Music.
Yes, actual jazz and not political palaver is passing through my internet tubes and into my headset.
We had a discussion long ago 'elsewhere on the internet' about how it seems so many of us gave up listening to music in the wake of 9/11. I'm really trying to get back. You may note that listening to Momma is a rare treat for me these days, and I've cut back on my other podcasts, too. I'm only picking up TRMS and Ring of Fire these days.
Hell, I ordered two new books, ii-V-I changes and "Rhythm" changes in all keys (Aebersold play-alongs) and am really trying to practice and jam this year.
Without art, what are we but automatons?
TriSec is Listening to Music.
Yes, actual jazz and not political palaver is passing through my internet tubes and into my headset.
We had a discussion long ago 'elsewhere on the internet' about how it seems so many of us gave up listening to music in the wake of 9/11. I'm really trying to get back. You may note that listening to Momma is a rare treat for me these days, and I've cut back on my other podcasts, too. I'm only picking up TRMS and Ring of Fire these days.
Hell, I ordered two new books, ii-V-I changes and "Rhythm" changes in all keys (Aebersold play-alongs) and am really trying to practice and jam this year.
Without art, what are we but automatons?
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 18:41:37
starling310 on 01/08/2008 18:41:37
YAY TRI!
I always struggle between the iPod and the internet!
I always struggle between the iPod and the internet!
Comment by starling310 on 01/08/2008 18:46:46
starling310 on 01/08/2008 18:46:46
Hubba hubba....Elizabeth Kucinich was just on Thom. :wub2:
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 19:10:08
I caught it. There's something about fiery redheads with an English accent.
livingonli on 01/08/2008 19:10:08
Quote by starling310: Hubba hubba....Elizabeth Kucinich was just on Thom. :wub2:
I caught it. There's something about fiery redheads with an English accent.
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 19:24:21
livingonli on 01/08/2008 19:24:21
Why is Chimpy having a press conference right now? He wants to pimp his road trip to another part of the world where no one wants him.
Comment by BobR on 01/08/2008 19:37:49
perhaps he wants to distract from the NH primaries...
BobR on 01/08/2008 19:37:49
Quote by livingonli: Why is Chimpy having a press conference right now? He wants to pimp his road trip to another part of the world where no one wants him.
perhaps he wants to distract from the NH primaries...
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 19:40:00
But does anybody even buy it anymore?
livingonli on 01/08/2008 19:40:00
Quote by BobR:Quote by livingonli: Why is Chimpy having a press conference right now? He wants to pimp his road trip to another part of the world where no one wants him.
perhaps he wants to distract from the NH primaries...
But does anybody even buy it anymore?
Comment by TriSec on 01/08/2008 20:25:40
TriSec on 01/08/2008 20:25:40
Signs of a record turnout in NH
Well, that's good for democracy, right? {somebody, somewhere, someone is shaking their little fist northeasterly...."Damn you voters for exercising your rights!!"}
MANCHESTER, N.H. -- If the scene at Brookside Congregational Church -- Manchester's largest polling station -- is any indication, today's New Hampshire primary will bring a record turnout -- especially among first-time voters.
"It has been steady heavy all day," said Herb Pence, a church volunteer who has worked on election day at least a dozen times. "It wasn't intense like this before -- on both sides, Republican and Democrat."
A stream of voters has been arriving since the polls opened, and the church parking was packed at midday. Many voters are lingering about after casting their ballots to talk with the large number of reporters and to commiserate with campaign volunteers holding signs for their candidate at the proscribed distance from the polling station entrance.
The turnout in Manchester's First Ward appeared to be especially high for those who have not participated before: while there was a significant line for "registered voters" in the church basement, the line for "new voters" was far longer, snaking around the stairs.
"This is the biggest we have ever seen," said poll worker Kimberly Hardwick.
Well, that's good for democracy, right? {somebody, somewhere, someone is shaking their little fist northeasterly...."Damn you voters for exercising your rights!!"}
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 20:50:40
livingonli on 01/08/2008 20:50:40
Hey, Grover Cleveland did have that illegitimate child issue.
"Maw, maw, where's my pa?'
"He's gone to Washington. Hah hah Hah."
That late 19th-century humor doesn't translate very well.
"Maw, maw, where's my pa?'
"He's gone to Washington. Hah hah Hah."
That late 19th-century humor doesn't translate very well.
Comment by BobR on 01/08/2008 20:56:24
EVERYONE wants change, on both sides of the aisle. Perhaps Dubya is uniting the country in a way he hadn't anticipated - against him.
BobR on 01/08/2008 20:56:24
Quote by TriSec: Signs of a record turnout in NH
Well, that's good for democracy, right? {somebody, somewhere, someone is shaking their little fist northeasterly...."Damn you voters for exercising your rights!!"}
EVERYONE wants change, on both sides of the aisle. Perhaps Dubya is uniting the country in a way he hadn't anticipated - against him.
Comment by TriSec on 01/08/2008 21:14:15
TriSec on 01/08/2008 21:14:15
Well, folks...off to muzak school tonight after a long holiday break.
Comment by livingonli on 01/08/2008 22:33:42
livingonli on 01/08/2008 22:33:42
I'm out for a spell myself. Meeting up with some friends at the Cheesecake Factory for dinner tonight. Since I won't see the coverage for a while, can anyone post updates? I especially want to see if Rachel confuses the hell out of Tweety again like she did Thursday night.
Well later gators.
Well later gators.
Comment by 
shelaghc on 01/08/2008 23:30:10
shelaghc on 01/08/2008 23:30:10
Just thought I'd stop by the blog while I'm not packing. Anyone else here?
Comment by shelaghc on 01/08/2008 23:55:35
shelaghc on 01/08/2008 23:55:35
Sammy's on the job!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 00:23:04
I am! Heya shelagh!!! I am cooking dinner and settling down to wartch the primary returns. Nice one on you with the sammy cam! I love the sammy cam!
Raine on 01/09/2008 00:23:04
Quote by shelaghc: Just thought I'd stop by the blog while I'm not packing. Anyone else here?
I am! Heya shelagh!!! I am cooking dinner and settling down to wartch the primary returns. Nice one on you with the sammy cam! I love the sammy cam!
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 00:29:12
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 00:29:12
Vanessa's live-blogging over at TRMS and I just read that Cenk is doing the same over at TYT.
But Vanessa's funnier. *g*
But Vanessa's funnier. *g*
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 00:34:56
Raine on 01/09/2008 00:34:56
eep! the first polls are in... Hillary is ahead. KO siad, and I concur, it is WAY too early...
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 00:43:35
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 00:43:35
Vanessa's making fun of Chris Matthews on TRMS's blog. And Rachel's got a computer this week.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 01:12:59
Raine on 01/09/2008 01:12:59
they just called McCan as the winner! Jeepers Romney didn't even get past the 1st half hour after the polls have closed
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 01:18:17
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 01:18:17
Vanessa said it best. Not a single pundit is even mentioning how crappy Giuliani is doing. Considering the money he's put into his campaign, neither Iowa nor NH have shown up for him.
In a word, he sucks.
And Rachel calls it - she said way long ago that Giuliani will never be POTUS.
In a word, he sucks.
And Rachel calls it - she said way long ago that Giuliani will never be POTUS.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 01:21:44
Raine on 01/09/2008 01:21:44
:puke: Joe scarface is talking about how the race for the republican race is wide open... I say.. WATCH how many people vote for republicans and how many people vote for democrats. THAT is the hugest part of this story. DEMS are turning out in record numbers.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 01:23:30
Raine on 01/09/2008 01:23:30
hey shelaghc, do you have a link to the TMRS sitethat you are scoping out?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 01:25:40
Raine on 01/09/2008 01:25:40
Where is liv? where is tri? where is Mondo? where am I?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 01:29:49
Raine on 01/09/2008 01:29:49
WTF is going on? I thought this was supposed to be a obamaslide!~
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 01:30:31
Raine on 01/09/2008 01:30:31
*sigh* I just mused.
Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 01:36:51
BobR on 01/09/2008 01:36:51
Hey! ShelaghC on the blog!!! :banana:
Yay! :hug:
Yay! :hug:
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 01:38:15
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 01:38:15
http://www.airamerica.com/maddow/node/3092
It's just Rachel's blog with Vanessa adding commentary.
It's just Rachel's blog with Vanessa adding commentary.
Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 01:38:47
BobR on 01/09/2008 01:38:47
Rachel bringin' it on MSNBC
Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 01:40:48
BobR on 01/09/2008 01:40:48
Buchanon isn't listening to Rachel at all - he's saying his blah-blah-blah without regard to her opinions at all.
What a tool. :punch:
What a tool. :punch:
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 01:47:55
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 01:47:55
I wish I could stream MSNBC. I haven't had cable in years and really don't want it just for shows on two cable channels.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 01:50:47
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 01:50:47
And while I'm saying stuff, I *really* miss Rachel's Campaign Asylum. I suspect it went away both because of lack of funds and because she's been so much busier with all the TV appearances.
But I'd grown accustomed to that fun stuff.
But I'd grown accustomed to that fun stuff.
Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 01:56:45
BobR on 01/09/2008 01:56:45
wow - Anne Lewis looks like she's about to felate that microphone...
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:03:43
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:03:43
OK, Mike huckabee's wife, (I'm gonna say it... it sounds meaner than it really is...) Looks like she is a man in woman's clothing.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:05:19
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:05:19
:rofl: the white cradboard sign keeps covering up hucks face.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:06:38
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:06:38
Where is chuck Norris??? I miss those shiny white teeth! (btw, I think Hucks wife is a "handsome woman" )
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 02:07:31
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 02:07:31
I need to find out how to vote this time out. I'll only be in Pittsburgh a few weeks, if that much, when the primary comes around.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:08:03
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:08:03
KO noted that Mitt is the First Massachusett governor who lost a primary inNEw Hampshie... EVER.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:08:29
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:08:29
Ron paul is only a few hundred votes behind Rudy.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:09:24
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:09:24
as of this monent.. Ron paul is only 399 votes behind rudy. 32% of the count is in.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 02:10:06
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 02:10:06
Well, I'm out of things for at least an hour. Time for my nightly phone call to my Mom.
Talk at you guys later.
Talk at you guys later.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:10:28
OOh, you need to look into that soon, youmay have to do absenetee balloting.
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:10:28
Quote by shelaghc: I need to find out how to vote this time out. I'll only be in Pittsburgh a few weeks, if that much, when the primary comes around.
OOh, you need to look into that soon, youmay have to do absenetee balloting.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:10:51
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:10:51
you may want to vote in Chicago before you leave.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:12:15
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:12:15
omg, McCAin is playing the Rocky theme song...
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:13:46
LAter Shelagh! If not tonite we will see you tomorrow
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:13:46
Quote by shelaghc: Well, I'm out of things for at least an hour. Time for my nightly phone call to my Mom.
Talk at you guys later.
LAter Shelagh! If not tonite we will see you tomorrow
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:14:25
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:14:25
McCan is READING his speech.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:19:44
McCain said he didn't go to washington to go along to get along... I post this picture as prof of what he really loves
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:19:44
McCain said he didn't go to washington to go along to get along... I post this picture as prof of what he really loves
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:46:46
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:46:46
Gah. it is looking like hillary will be taking NH. The bright side is that we still have a true race!
Whatever will momma do tommorow?
Whatever will momma do tommorow?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:51:20
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:51:20
Romney is now up to 32%... McCain's 37% has not changed... when MSNBC clled the race, Mitt was at 29%... Just something to ponder... they are now only 5% apart... it would be kinda interesting to see if they called this race a little to early.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 02:52:50
Raine on 01/09/2008 02:52:50
I have been musing all over the blog tonite. I promise I will have this cleaned up in th emorning... especially that really large muse in the corner over there.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 03:11:48
velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 03:11:48
Hello? Hello? just getting in..........heard no news all day long. Who's up? Who's down? Give me the quick poop!!
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 03:12:11
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 03:12:11
Ahh I see Senator Anger Management has pimp slapped Gov. Odo and the frightening Minister Guy. How nice. He still ain't gonna win. Just sayin...
On lighter note, Manamal is a member of my gym. You should see this guy! Hairy than Robin Williams. :shudder: He didn't just have back hair, he had a pelt.
On lighter note, Manamal is a member of my gym. You should see this guy! Hairy than Robin Williams. :shudder: He didn't just have back hair, he had a pelt.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 03:14:14
I saw those two last week during the Iowa coverage. Rachel was looking at him with her you are a bug look.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 03:14:14
Quote by BobR: Buchanon isn't listening to Rachel at all - he's saying his blah-blah-blah without regard to her opinions at all.
What a tool. :punch:
I saw those two last week during the Iowa coverage. Rachel was looking at him with her you are a bug look.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 03:14:17
velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 03:14:17
Hey, who is this shelaghc person? 
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 03:16:25
Raine on 01/09/2008 03:16:25
Elizabeth is giving her speeach right now. John will be up shortly. :cry:
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 03:17:00
velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 03:17:00
Dammit Hillary is winning? Grrrrrrrr.
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 03:20:04
velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 03:20:04
Okay, I now have a teevee in front of me.............
Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 03:24:06
She's an old friend from our AAP days...
BobR on 01/09/2008 03:24:06
Quote by velveeta jones: Hey, who is this shelaghc person?
She's an old friend from our AAP days...
Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 03:26:04
BobR on 01/09/2008 03:26:04
Edwards, I love ya, but ya gotta mix up your speeches a bit. Give the girl who died from no liver transplant and the cleft pallet guy a rest.
Oh, and the mill story too.
Oh, and the mill story too.
Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 03:28:38
She REALLY needs her own show.
BobR on 01/09/2008 03:28:38
Quote by Mondobubba:
I saw those two last week during the Iowa coverage. Rachel was looking at him with her you are a bug look.
She REALLY needs her own show.
Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 03:32:25
BobR on 01/09/2008 03:32:25
As expected, they are calling it for Hillary...
Comment by velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 03:32:50
Yep, I remember her. Glad she's here.
NBC calls it for Hillary.
velveeta jones on 01/09/2008 03:32:50
Quote by BobR:Quote by velveeta jones: Hey, who is this shelaghc person?
She's an old friend from our AAP days...
Yep, I remember her. Glad she's here.
NBC calls it for Hillary.
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 03:38:00
I have to say...I am optimistic that it didn't go to Obama. Why? You ask. I'll tell you.
This means it is still anyone's to win. If Obamentum had continued it may have become a foregone conclusion. Maybe I am blissfully ignorant, but I think this might mean that people are voting for who they want, not strictly who is Numero Uno on that given day.
Am I naive?
starling310 on 01/09/2008 03:38:00
Quote by velveeta jones: Dammit Hillary is winning? Grrrrrrrr.
I have to say...I am optimistic that it didn't go to Obama. Why? You ask. I'll tell you.
This means it is still anyone's to win. If Obamentum had continued it may have become a foregone conclusion. Maybe I am blissfully ignorant, but I think this might mean that people are voting for who they want, not strictly who is Numero Uno on that given day.
Am I naive?
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 03:39:31
Ah! I just read this. Okay, either I am not naive in my last post, or the pair of us are equally!
starling310 on 01/09/2008 03:39:31
Quote by Raine: Gah. it is looking like hillary will be taking NH. The bright side is that we still have a true race!
Whatever will momma do tommorow?
Ah! I just read this. Okay, either I am not naive in my last post, or the pair of us are equally!
Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 03:42:09
BobR on 01/09/2008 03:42:09
Did Terry McAullif (sp) just say that Hillary is superstitious?
That's a little bothersome...
That's a little bothersome...
Comment by BobR on 01/09/2008 03:45:50
Edwards said that 99% of the country still haven't had their voices heard in this democracy. I wish the pundits would listen.
BobR on 01/09/2008 03:45:50
Quote by starling310:
I have to say...I am optimistic that it didn't go to Obama. Why? You ask. I'll tell you.
This means it is still anyone's to win. If Obamentum had continued it may have become a foregone conclusion. Maybe I am blissfully ignorant, but I think this might mean that people are voting for who they want, not strictly who is Numero Uno on that given day.
Am I naive?
Edwards said that 99% of the country still haven't had their voices heard in this democracy. I wish the pundits would listen.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 03:52:04
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 03:52:04
While Iowa and NH are both great news for this country moving into a new century, a friend of mine who lives in Alaska and is from Virginia brought up a very valid point.
How possible is it that the rednecks in the southern states will vote for either a black man or a woman for president?
Edwards is right - in the southern states he very well may be the candidate of choice in the primaries.
Even in my home state, he might have a better chance. Pittsburgh alone, while skewing Democrat, is still rather conservative.
This race is far from over.
How possible is it that the rednecks in the southern states will vote for either a black man or a woman for president?
Edwards is right - in the southern states he very well may be the candidate of choice in the primaries.
Even in my home state, he might have a better chance. Pittsburgh alone, while skewing Democrat, is still rather conservative.
This race is far from over.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 03:54:21
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 03:54:21
Chuck D is on AAR right now!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 03:59:20
I dunno, I think people in the deep south would be more inclines to vote for a black than a woman... that woman being hillary, down here.
The bottom line is that the republicans are just so disgusted with the people they have to choose from, I think they would take anyone if it isn't hillary.
She is just to devisive.
(Obabma is preaching from his pulpit!)
Raine on 01/09/2008 03:59:20
Quote by shelaghc: While Iowa and NH are both great news for this country moving into a new century, a friend of mine who lives in Alaska and is from Virginia brought up a very valid point.
How possible is it that the rednecks in the southern states will vote for either a black man or a woman for president?
Edwards is right - in the southern states he very well may be the candidate of choice in the primaries.
Even in my home state, he might have a better chance. Pittsburgh alone, while skewing Democrat, is still rather conservative.
This race is far from over.
The bottom line is that the republicans are just so disgusted with the people they have to choose from, I think they would take anyone if it isn't hillary.
She is just to devisive.
(Obabma is preaching from his pulpit!)
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 03:59:56
They won't listen, but with any luck, the people will hear it!
starling310 on 01/09/2008 03:59:56
Quote by BobR:Quote by starling310:
I have to say...I am optimistic that it didn't go to Obama. Why? You ask. I'll tell you.
This means it is still anyone's to win. If Obamentum had continued it may have become a foregone conclusion. Maybe I am blissfully ignorant, but I think this might mean that people are voting for who they want, not strictly who is Numero Uno on that given day.
Am I naive?
Edwards said that 99% of the country still haven't had their voices heard in this democracy. I wish the pundits would listen.
They won't listen, but with any luck, the people will hear it!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:00:42
your post is far from naive.
this is all very exciting to me.
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:00:42
Quote by starling310:Quote by Raine: Gah. it is looking like hillary will be taking NH. The bright side is that we still have a true race!
Whatever will momma do tommorow?
Ah! I just read this. Okay, either I am not naive in my last post, or the pair of us are equally!
your post is far from naive.
this is all very exciting to me.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:01:11
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:01:11
OBAMA has GREAT campaign music!!!!
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:04:12
starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:04:12
Yay Tom Brokaw! Excellent point!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:05:49
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:05:49
bobr is hopeing Hillary will say: "stop it, you guys are gonna make me cry"
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:06:44
IT is kinda nice to se them schooling themselves, eh?
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:06:44
Quote by starling310: Yay Tom Brokaw! Excellent point!
IT is kinda nice to se them schooling themselves, eh?
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:06:48
livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:06:48
Hi all. Home from my dinner outing. See my 5:30-ish post. Nice night of dinner at the Cheesecake Factory with friends. Was listening to Mike Malloy on the ride home. Now I have MSNBC on the TV machine with Mike Malloy on the Sirius Machine.
So, did you all miss me?
So, did you all miss me?
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:07:18
starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:07:18
HA! I was just thinking she should do a Tracy Ullman "Go 'ome! Go 'ome!"
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:08:23
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:08:23
OOH... she found her own voice? Does this mean she will be getting rid of MArk pen and putting terry mcCAullufe in his place? :jaded:
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:08:47
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:08:47
How can you comeback when you were never really behind?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:09:43
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:09:43
Quote by livingonli: Hi all. Home from my dinner outing. See my 5:30-ish post. Nice night of dinner at the Cheesecake Factory with friends. Was listening to Mike Malloy on the ride home. Now I have MSNBC on the TV machine with Mike Malloy on the Sirius Machine.
SActually, yes! BUT... I am glad you got to see friends.
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:10:19
starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:10:19
I can't afford to go to Chicago to pursue my dream. Will Hillary help me? Just curious.
:shrug:
:shrug:
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:10:48
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:10:48
I'm gonna have to make a friend in Pittsburgh that has cable for primary nights.....
I still refuse to get cable.
I still refuse to get cable.
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:11:01
starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:11:01
Must be PMS...even Shills is making me tear up.
Ppffft.
Ppffft.
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:11:27
livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:11:27
Working evenings you don't get to too much unless it's on your night's off. I always have to let my friends know my days off in advance to plan our little get togethers.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:12:10
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:12:10
Starling, I just finished eight years of living in Chicago. Don't count on finding your dream here.
Quote by starling310: I can't afford to go to Chicago to pursue my dream. Will Hillary help me? Just curious.
:shrug:
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:12:23
livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:12:23
Supposedly, MSNBC is being streamed tonight so ShelaghC you might be able to check it out online.
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:12:25
starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:12:25
What's up Shelagh!?! Good to see you. :hug:
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:13:03
Ha! I have been offered a possible audition slot with "2nd City."
starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:13:03
Quote by shelaghc: Starling, I just finished eight years of living in Chicago. Don't count on finding your dream here.Quote by starling310: I can't afford to go to Chicago to pursue my dream. Will Hillary help me? Just curious.
:shrug:
Ha! I have been offered a possible audition slot with "2nd City."
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:14:03
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:14:03
MSNBC is streaming tonite? WOW! give us a link stat!
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:14:07
starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:14:07
Did someone just yell "You go girl!?"
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:15:26
I checked my calendar... for me, PMS. Jeepers, for a minute Rudy made me swell.
I got over it with a little neo sporin. :rofl:
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:15:26
Quote by starling310: Must be PMS...even Shills is making me tear up.
Ppffft.
I checked my calendar... for me, PMS. Jeepers, for a minute Rudy made me swell.
I got over it with a little neo sporin. :rofl:
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:16:05
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:16:05
I will give hill some credit... she just did one thing that Bill didn't... she won new hampshire!
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:16:44
livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:16:44
Mike Malloy is saying that if Hillary is the nominee, he could not in good conscience vote for her. He will not keep going for the lesser of two evils.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:17:15
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:17:15
Dodd and biden... and........... come on hill you can say it.........
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:18:57
This was what I was saying earlier about dems always settling for "good enough".
This race is wide open. TOTALLY. Supernami tuesday has 22 states voting.
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:18:57
Quote by livingonli: Mike Malloy is saying that if Hillary is the nominee, he could not in good conscience vote for her. He will not keep going for the lesser of two evils.
This was what I was saying earlier about dems always settling for "good enough".
This race is wide open. TOTALLY. Supernami tuesday has 22 states voting.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:19:36
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:19:36
Friggin McCain... I can't believe that old dude is back inthe race.
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:21:31
starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:21:31
As it should be Tim!
: tim russert : "Each state is going to make their own decision..."
Thank you! Yes! Let's all not be sheep this year, shall we?
: tim russert : "Each state is going to make their own decision..."
Thank you! Yes! Let's all not be sheep this year, shall we?
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:21:50
livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:21:50
If it's Ali-Frazier, does that make Hillary Frasier and Obama Ali?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:23:49
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:23:49
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:24:23
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:24:23
Did you hear what brokaw said? about the campaigngoing thru a change? I am telling you... someone is out the door
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:24:55
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:24:55
That guy looks liek Chris eliott
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:26:09
Do you think that at least MSNBC finally gets the fact that people may be tired of having shit shoved down thier throats? MAYBE? (eternally hopeful projection here)
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:26:09
Quote by starling310: As it should be Tim!
: tim russert : "Each state is going to make their own decision..."
Thank you! Yes! Let's all not be sheep this year, shall we?
Do you think that at least MSNBC finally gets the fact that people may be tired of having shit shoved down thier throats? MAYBE? (eternally hopeful projection here)
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:26:46
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:26:46
This is just stunniong to hear KO say "all the polling was wrong"... it was all wrong!!!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:28:04
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:28:04
What the hell was that sound? and asthmatic cameraperson?
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:30:13
omg...i thought it was just me. I thought one of my cats had a hairball.
starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:30:13
Quote by Raine: What the hell was that sound? and asthmatic cameraperson?
omg...i thought it was just me. I thought one of my cats had a hairball.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:30:23
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:30:23
what no love for spotting Manimal? Oh we can't be humorous Mondo, its primary night! :kick can:
:kick can:
Comment by starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:30:41
starling310 on 01/09/2008 04:30:41
sleepy
good night all...
good night all...
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:31:46
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:31:46
you heard it... tweety just said and I quote: "I will never underestimate Hillary Clinton Again"
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:32:37
I thought it was hilarious, I wasn't logged on tho. I also was a little grossed out!
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:32:37
Quote by Mondobubba: what no love for spotting Manimal? Oh we can't be humorous Mondo, its primary night!
I thought it was hilarious, I wasn't logged on tho. I also was a little grossed out!
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:34:40
Whoa! This is great!
I'll have to bookmark for future use - or do they have it all the time?
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:34:40
Quote by livingonli: MSNBC link- goes to Windows Media Player
Whoa! This is great!
I'll have to bookmark for future use - or do they have it all the time?
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:34:41
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:34:41
Jeepers, how come tweety can say that Obama looks young and clean and Biden got a rash of shit?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:38:13
It was kinda frightening. My other thought, "OH KELLY CLARKSON!" (look it up)
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:38:13
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba: what no love for spotting Manimal? Oh we can't be humorous Mondo, its primary night!
I thought it was hilarious, I wasn't logged on tho. I also was a little grossed out!
It was kinda frightening.
My other thought, "OH KELLY CLARKSON!" (look it up)
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:39:18
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:39:18
Did that guy just mispronounce Barack Obama?
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:39:22
He isn't running for office. Not to mention he has shit for brains. Oh did I say that? My bad. :skates to penalty box.
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:39:22
Quote by Raine: Jeepers, how come tweety can say that Obama looks young and clean and Biden got a rash of shit?
He isn't running for office. Not to mention he has shit for brains. Oh did I say that? My bad. :skates to penalty box.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:39:34
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:39:34
nevada and SC.... coming up! This is gonna be a great campaign!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:40:27
:rofl: you sir, are a deee---lite
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:40:27
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine: Jeepers, how come tweety can say that Obama looks young and clean and Biden got a rash of shit?
He isn't running for office. Not to mention he has shit for brains. Oh did I say that? My bad. :skates to penalty box.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:40:47
Because Tweety isn't a politician.
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:40:47
Quote by Raine: Jeepers, how come tweety can say that Obama looks young and clean and Biden got a rash of shit?
Because Tweety isn't a politician.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:42:12
Shelagh git outta my heed! :foilhat:
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:42:12
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine: Jeepers, how come tweety can say that Obama looks young and clean and Biden got a rash of shit?
Because Tweety isn't a politician.
Shelagh git outta my heed! :foilhat:
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:42:59
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:42:59
yes, hello there is a TOM bradley AND a Bill bradley... Jeez, Joe scarborough is killing me.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:44:26
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:44:26
Ok... so according to Joe, people used thier vote as a pity vote for hillary? Uhm... perhaps they actually voted for her! :grumble:
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:45:02
Heh. Yeah, but you said it more eloquently! *g*
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:45:02
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine: Jeepers, how come tweety can say that Obama looks young and clean and Biden got a rash of shit?
Because Tweety isn't a politician.
Shelagh git outta my heed! :foilhat:
Heh. Yeah, but you said it more eloquently! *g*
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:45:29
:rofl:
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:45:29
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine: Jeepers, how come tweety can say that Obama looks young and clean and Biden got a rash of shit?
Because Tweety isn't a politician.
Shelagh git outta my heed! :foilhat:
:rofl:
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:46:36
livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:46:36
The internet feed isn't running the commercial breaks. I guess that's why they don't stream the network 24-7. I wish they did. Actually, I wouldn't mind if MSNBC was back on satellite radio so I could have listened to it on the drive.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:46:54
You are much to kind, Ma'am. :tips hat amble down the wooden sidewalk:
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:46:54
Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by shelaghc:Quote by Raine: Jeepers, how come tweety can say that Obama looks young and clean and Biden got a rash of shit?
Because Tweety isn't a politician.
Shelagh git outta my heed! :foilhat:
Heh. Yeah, but you said it more eloquently! *g*
You are much to kind, Ma'am. :tips hat amble down the wooden sidewalk:
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:47:04
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:47:04
No one is talking about the fact that Fred got 1% of the vote tonite.... {fred_gump}
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:49:04
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:49:04
pfff. obama will be just fine. I still do not think hillary will get the nomination.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:49:25
Is that your tinfoil hat you're tipping?
;->
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:49:25
You are much to kind, Ma'am. :tips hat amble down the wooden sidewalk:
Is that your tinfoil hat you're tipping?
;->
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:51:22
:penalty flag: gratuitous use of the Fred Gump AudiCon. 2 minute minor for Raine! :skates over to penalty box, holds door for the lady:
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:51:22
Quote by Raine: No one is talking about the fact that Fred got 1% of the vote tonite.... {fred_gump}
:penalty flag: gratuitous use of the Fred Gump AudiCon. 2 minute minor for Raine! :skates over to penalty box, holds door for the lady:
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:51:22
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:51:22
I really need to see if we can hitch a ride to South carloina this weekend for Edwards.
There are rumours that the Atlanta chapter of One corp is meeting at the capitol for a caravan...
There are rumours that the Atlanta chapter of One corp is meeting at the capitol for a caravan...
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:52:15
:rofl: Tin foil cowboy hat! I've never thought of that!
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:52:15
Quote by shelaghc:You are much to kind, Ma'am. :tips hat amble down the wooden sidewalk:
Is that your tinfoil hat you're tipping?
;->
:rofl: Tin foil cowboy hat! I've never thought of that!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:52:20
IT wasn't THAT gratuitous.... Shelagh has not heard our audicons!!!
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:52:20
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine: No one is talking about the fact that Fred got 1% of the vote tonite.... {fred_gump}
:penalty flag: gratuitous use of the Fred Gump AudiCon. 2 minute minor for Raine! :skates over to penalty box, holds door for the lady:
IT wasn't THAT gratuitous.... Shelagh has not heard our audicons!!!
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:53:40
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:53:40
Hmmmm....
Here's a little tidbit that came from the Sam Seder Show blog:
Can You Count on Voting Machines?
Here's a little tidbit that came from the Sam Seder Show blog:
Can You Count on Voting Machines?
As the primaries start in New Hampshire this week and roll on through the next few months, the erratic behavior of voting technology will once again find itself under a microscope. In the last three election cycles, touch-screen machines have become one of the most mysterious and divisive elements in modern electoral politics. Introduced after the 2000 hanging-chad debacle, the machines were originally intended to add clarity to election results. But in hundreds of instances, the result has been precisely the opposite: they fail unpredictably, and in extremely strange ways; voters report that their choices “flip” from one candidate to another before their eyes; machines crash or begin to count backward; votes simply vanish. (In the 80-person town of Waldenburg, Ark., touch-screen machines tallied zero votes for one mayoral candidate in 2006 — even though he’s pretty sure he voted for himself.) Most famously, in the November 2006 Congressional election in Sarasota, Fla., touch-screen machines recorded an 18,000-person “undervote” for a race decided by fewer than 400 votes.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:54:12
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:54:12
I am getting sleepy....
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:55:38
good point speaking of gratuitous, I need to hit the hay. {Fred_Gump}
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:55:38
Quote by Raine:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine: No one is talking about the fact that Fred got 1% of the vote tonite.... {fred_gump}
:penalty flag: gratuitous use of the Fred Gump AudiCon. 2 minute minor for Raine! :skates over to penalty box, holds door for the lady:
IT wasn't THAT gratuitous.... Shelagh has not heard our audicons!!!
good point speaking of gratuitous, I need to hit the hay. {Fred_Gump}
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:55:53
livingonli on 01/09/2008 04:55:53
Mgm posted some funny stuff on the AAP blog.
We still have to work on bringing him over here too. He would love the audiocons.
We still have to work on bringing him over here too. He would love the audiocons.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:56:07
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 04:56:07
Has Rachel left the MSNBC building? I thought someone said the "panel" was still there.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:57:12
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:57:12
:skate to penalty box. squirt squeeze bottle of what I think is Rainetinis: WHO PUT THE GATORADE IN HERE! Auggh!
WHO PUT THE GATORADE IN HERE! Auggh!
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:57:14
Funny you should bring that up... I was wondering tonite (much ealier, and not on the blog) if NH have these machines.
Does anyone know?
Also, I posted an amazing article over on the board from last weeks NYT magazine... It is in the Ohio voting machines thread, iffin y'all are interested. Voting machines --- the electronic kind... has been a particular sticking point to me.
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:57:14
Quote by shelaghc: Hmmmm....
Here's a little tidbit that came from the Sam Seder Show blog:
Can You Count on Voting Machines?As the primaries start in New Hampshire this week and roll on through the next few months, the erratic behavior of voting technology will once again find itself under a microscope. In the last three election cycles, touch-screen machines have become one of the most mysterious and divisive elements in modern electoral politics. Introduced after the 2000 hanging-chad debacle, the machines were originally intended to add clarity to election results. But in hundreds of instances, the result has been precisely the opposite: they fail unpredictably, and in extremely strange ways; voters report that their choices “flip” from one candidate to another before their eyes; machines crash or begin to count backward; votes simply vanish. (In the 80-person town of Waldenburg, Ark., touch-screen machines tallied zero votes for one mayoral candidate in 2006 — even though he’s pretty sure he voted for himself.) Most famously, in the November 2006 Congressional election in Sarasota, Fla., touch-screen machines recorded an 18,000-person “undervote” for a race decided by fewer than 400 votes.
Does anyone know?
Also, I posted an amazing article over on the board from last weeks NYT magazine... It is in the Ohio voting machines thread, iffin y'all are interested. Voting machines --- the electronic kind... has been a particular sticking point to me.
Comment by Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:58:54
Mondobubba on 01/09/2008 04:58:54
Raine. A blog opening about why "The Wire" is must see TV. Discuss this we will tomorrow.
Comment by Raine on 01/09/2008 04:59:29
What the hell? HEads will roll for this!
OK, I am out... Sleepiness has taken control... Last one out turn off the light! See y'all tommoroow!
Raine on 01/09/2008 04:59:29
Quote by Mondobubba: :skate to penalty box. squirt squeeze bottle of what I think is Rainetinis:
What the hell? HEads will roll for this!
OK, I am out... Sleepiness has taken control... Last one out turn off the light! See y'all tommoroow!
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 05:00:17
livingonli on 01/09/2008 05:00:17
Good night, Raine, Mondo, and whoever else has already hit the hay.
Comment by shelaghc on 01/09/2008 05:08:16
shelaghc on 01/09/2008 05:08:16
I think I'm heading for bed too.
Packing packing packing.
g'night to anyone still here.
Packing packing packing.
g'night to anyone still here.
Comment by livingonli on 01/09/2008 05:27:20
livingonli on 01/09/2008 05:27:20
Have a good trip. Don't forget to drop in and say hi.