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Author: TriSec    Date: 09/13/2011 10:19:04

Good Morning.

Today is our 3,100th day in Iraq, and our 3,628th day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing wars, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

American Deaths
Since war began (3/19/03): 4474
Since "Mission Accomplished" (5/1/03): 4335
Since Handover (6/29/04): 3615
Since Obama Inauguration (1/20/09): 246
Since Operation New Dawn: 46

Other Coalition Troops - Iraq: 318
US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,752
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 947
Contractor Employee Deaths - Iraq: 1,487
Journalists - Iraq : 348
Academics Killed - Iraq: 448

We find this morning's Cost of War passing through:

$ 1, 248, 858, 900, 000. 00



As we head towards the last quarter of 2011, it's time to start thinking about what's going to happen in Iraq at the end of the year. Allegedly, we're supposed to have all our troops out by December 31...but what's going to happen after that?


One of the longest-running opponents of the US in Iraq, Mujtada Al-Sadr has called on his private army to stop attacking US soldiers. Supposedly, he doesn't want to give the Iraq government any reason to ask for US troops to remain behind any longer than necessary...but in reality it's probably to create a false sense of security.


BAGHDAD -- An anti-American cleric is urging his followers to stop attacking U.S. troops in Iraq so that their withdrawal from the country isn't slowed down, a call meant to ramp up pressure on Baghdad's political leaders who are considering asking some American forces to stay.

In a statement posted on his website, Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr told his militias to halt attacks against U.S. forces until the withdrawal is finished at the end of the year as required under a security agreement between Washington and Baghdad.

"Out of my desire to complete Iraq's independence and to finish the withdrawal of the occupation forces from our holy lands, I am obliged to halt military operations of the honest Iraqi resistance until the withdrawal of the occupation forces is complete," al-Sadr said in the statement, posted late Saturday. Sadrist lawmaker Mushraq Naji confirmed the statement on Sunday.

However, al-Sadr warned that "if the withdrawal doesn't happen ... the military operations will be resumed in a new and tougher way."

The statement followed last week's notice by U.S. officials in Baghdad, announcing the start of the withdrawal.

There are currently about 45,000 U.S. forces in Iraq.

However, U.S. and Iraqi leaders are currently weighing whether some American troops should remain past the Dec. 31 deadline as Baghdad continues to struggle with instability and burgeoning influence from neighboring Iran. Last month, Iraqi leaders began negotiating with U.S. officials in Baghdad to keep at least several thousand troops in Iraq to continue training the nation's shaky security forces.

Officials in Washington say President Obama is willing to keep between 3,000 and 10,000 U.S. troops in Iraq. But with fewer than four months before the final deadline, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and parliament still have not indicated how many U.S. troops Iraq might need, how long they would stay, or exactly what they would be doing.



But will that be good enough? The Pentagon is hoping so, and is starting to use the term "Iraqi Good Enough". As far as I can tell, that means that while Iraq's security forces are nowhere near as good as the US, they are "good enough" for Iraq's purposes. Somehow I find that vaguely insulting, but I'm not an Iraqi. We'll see how this works out.


RAMADI, Iraq -- There are 3,200 soldiers in the 82nd Airborne's 2nd Brigade Combat Team serving in Anbar province, but only a handful of those paratroops will ever fire a shot at an enemy this year.

They still seek out roadside bombs to clear, though they don't find very many. They remain on call for Iraqi security forces operating in a province that is still a base of operations for al-Qaida in Iraq, but the police rarely call for backup.

Although U.S. soldiers in Anbar still do intelligence-gathering and some Iraqi commando training, the brigade's mission is focused on advising security force managers on how to run their units more efficiently. Soldiers say the Iraqis are getting it -- not to a U.S. Army standard, but to a level that they call "Iraqi good enough."

As U.S. and Iraqi officials negotiate a new security agreement to allow U.S. troops to remain in an advisory and training capacity, many senior U.S. military officers in Anbar province and elsewhere say the Iraqis are ready to take over security without the United States, despite persistent problems with sectarianism and due process.
"If the mission in Anbar were to end tomorrow … the organizations here right now are fully competent to maintain security," said Col. Tim Kehoe, deputy commanding officer of the 2nd Advise and Assist Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division.

"If you want to know what else they need from us, I would say, 'Not much.'"

No one is saying that Iraqi security forces are ready to keep everyone safe. Military officials will say, however, that they are capable of policing Anbar and other areas, to handle a certain level of violence there.

Anbar province, which constitutes about one-third of Iraq, was mostly spared from the violence that erupted Aug. 15, when dozens of attacks throughout Iraq were launched, presumably by al-Qaida in Iraq. They killed at least 90 people and caused some to doubt whether the 650,000 Iraqi security forces personnel have made the gains that U.S military officials say they have.

Senior officials point to statistics showing attacks against U.S. and Iraqi forces dropping from 145 per day in 2007 to about 14 per day now as proof of progress.
But officials acknowledge that structural problems within the Iraqi security forces are preventing them from stopping coordinated terror attacks.

"What they're lacking is that national database that can fuse intelligence together from all the different sources that they have," said Brig. Gen. Michael Smith, director of the Iraqi Training and Advisory Mission-Police. "They may find in time that they had a lot of this information out there, but no one ever linked all of these different data points together."


I don't suppose it would be "Ask a Vet" without a visit from our friends at IAVA. Long before he went to war, long before he founded IAVA, Paul Rieckhoff was at Ground Zero. Like everyone else, he had some thoughts to share.


I was at Ground Zero ten years ago and remember it well. Too well, really. I remember the blue sky. I remember a gigantic plane engine sitting calmly on a street corner like a piece of modern art. I remember the rubble. I remember the bucket brigades. I remember the lifeless faces and bodies. I know I’ll Never Forget and I’m not the only one.

In the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, the phrase “Never Forget” became popular in all corners of America. It was more than just a catchphrase. It came to represent a unified nation’s grief and resolve. Grief about what had happened and for those who died, and resolve to move past the tragedy. That resolve proved especially needed in the decade that followed, from a global financial crisis to political gridlock in DC to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that still haven’t ended. And whatever one thinks of those wars, no one has better represented the resolve of “Never Forget” than the service members that have fought in our name. They remember their fallen brothers and sisters in arms, and honor them by moving forward – something we as a nation are in the process of doing ourselves.

Despite the fact that less than one percent of Americans have served in the Armed Forces since 9/11, ten years of conflict means a lot of combat veterans have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. Last month, that count crossed the 2.3 million people threshold. Some of these vets have stayed in the service, deploying back to war three, four, even five times. Others have returned back home and found other ways to continue to serve their country. This 9/11 Generation has started to change our country for the better from the ground-up. Organizations like Purple Heart Homes and individuals like education activistWes Moore have applied the hard-earned lessons learned under fire back home, for the betterment of their communities. And those are just two examples of many, many more vets on the forefront of service and progress.

9/11 changed the world for many Americans, military and civilians alike. I was at my studio apartment in Manhattan when the first plane hit the World Trade Center. Like many of my fellow New Yorkers, I rushed down to Ground Zero, eager to help where I could. I experienced something there that would later serve me well in combat - in the heat of the moment, there’s no time for second-guessing or emotion. There’s only time for action. The reflecting comes later.

A lot of things stay with me from that day. Like when a group of us dug out the body of an older woman in a black dress. She was still clutching her purse. She was somebody’s mother. Somebody’s wife. Her bones were gone. All of them. Dust.

Less than two years later, I found myself in a different kind of dust and sand, patrolling the streets of Baghdad as an infantry platoon leader with the New York National Guard. On this anniversary, it’s important our entire country reflects on the sacrifices and service of those inspired by the events of 9/11. Former U.S. Army Captain Joseph Kearns Goodwin summed it up smartly last week on Meet the Press while discussing why he decided to serve. “It was not so much anger … or a sense of vengeance,” he said. “I’d been granted almost every advantage a free and prosperous society can give you … I felt it incumbent to give something back to this great country that had given me so much.”

Part of Never Forget is Moving Forward. We honor the fallen that way, whether they fell in the towers, at the Pentagon, Shanksville, or on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan. And if you’re not sure how, or not sure you’re ready, find a veteran on the forefront and ask him or her to help. They know how, because they’ve had to do it before.

 

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Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/13/2011 12:08:28
Good morning, bloggers!!!

TriSec, thanks for a great blog on the situation in Iraq. I fear that we have accomplished little if anything of lasting value there. History will likely record the Iraq War as the most unnecessary war in American history. Ironically, what the Bush administration seemed to do in the region was enpower Iran and various factions opposed to their vision for the region.

In some good news, I had my interview for a temporary teaching position yesterday. I think that it went well, but should know soon whether or not I have the job. So, I am waiting even as I rush out to another sub job.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 12:35:42
Morning


Okay so how many years have our guys been training Iraq Mil. forces? At this point they should be "good enough" if they aren't I have to wonder whose fault it is. Maybe that sounds a bit cold, but I'm tried of out guys putting their necks on the line for a war that was "elective" as Brian Williams put it.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 12:56:07
:grunt:

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 13:15:04
One more 9/11 related thought. NPR like all the other news media went into news overdrive is was all terror all the time for like two or maybe three weeks. One evening when I was leaving work I got into my car and turned on the radio like I always did, out of the speakers with came the last movement from the 9th by Ludwig Von B! It was magificent. What a way to start returning to normality.

Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 13:16:20
Morning, comrades.

Those dead bodies they found in town last night (see FB and yesterday's blog) now look like a bad drug deal. Reportedly, the bodies were all tied up, stabbed multiple times, and the house was full of pot.

Across the street from a church and Catholic school, and 2 blocks in either direction to a public school. Not the usual location in town for that sort of thing.

In any case...


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 13:20:29
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades.

Those dead bodies they found in town last night (see FB and yesterday's blog) now look like a bad drug deal. Reportedly, the bodies were all tied up, stabbed multiple times, and the house was full of pot.

Across the street from a church and Catholic school, and 2 blocks in either direction to a public school. Not the usual location in town for that sort of thing.

In any case...



Wow...

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 13:31:34
good morning.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 13:46:24
Stop Breathing Into The PHONE!!!!!

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 13:52:00
Quote by wickedpam:
Stop Breathing Into The PHONE!!!!!
I heard that too!


Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 13:54:31
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Stop Breathing Into The PHONE!!!!!
I heard that too!



Drives me nuts! If you can't operate a phone correctly why should I take anything said seriously.


Sorry - pet peeve.

Comment by Scoopster on 09/13/2011 14:01:05
Mornin' all..

I've got three dollars to last me three days. WHAT FUN!

Oh, and have I ever mentioned how much I hate customers that try to dictate their own terms?

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 14:03:16
Quote by Scoopster:
Mornin' all..

I've got three dollars to last me three days. WHAT FUN!

Oh, and have I ever mentioned how much I hate customers that try to dictate their own terms?



I find that a polite, "No" works.

Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 14:34:39
WILL WORK FOR INSURANCE

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 14:40:07
Quote by TriSec:
WILL WORK FOR INSURANCE

What?



Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 15:04:05
Open enrollment....just took a $200 pay cut.

Could this be the law of unintended consequences? Our HR person exposed her tooliness by blaming the reforms for the premium hikes, but she also went on to note we've had a 50% increase in utilization. So naturally, because we use more, the insurance company is now charging us more. They also cut back the company contribution this year, too. Hanging on by the ol' fingenails, but just starting to get a little better. Now this, and we're back to food or prescriptions.

So....next few nights I'll be spending in front of the computer updating all my online stuff. Fortunately my resume is in good shape.

Or either that, I'll just die and decrease the surplus population. Whichever is easier.




Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 15:06:43
And remember I took this job primarily for the benefits, and because it wasn't contract. It's now worth it for me to contract again; I priced the healthcare connector recently, and I can actually beat the company's price buying my own insurance. Not by much (less than $100), but I can get a better deal myself.



Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 15:08:01
Well that sucks - ours went up this year too. I think its more the insurance company's are grabbing what they can before reforms hit in 2014

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 15:10:52
Quote by TriSec:
And remember I took this job primarily for the benefits, and because it wasn't contract. It's now worth it for me to contract again; I priced the healthcare connector recently, and I can actually beat the company's price buying my own insurance. Not by much (less than $100), but I can get a better deal myself.


Do you have to take the employer provided insurance? can you refuse and go and buy your own?

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 15:11:57
Quote by wickedpam:
Well that sucks - ours went up this year too. I think its more the insurance company's are grabbing what they can before reforms hit in 2014
This is what is happening.

But you know, according to the GOP: damn those regulations.


Comment by Scoopster on 09/13/2011 15:15:31
Quote by wickedpam:
Well that sucks - ours went up this year too. I think its more the insurance company's are grabbing what they can before reforms hit in 2014

Mine kinda "went up" - All of us here went from a $200 deductible to $1000 because the owner couldn't afford the price hikes on the better plan.

Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 15:17:04
I can opt out of the employer coverage.

The mandate is at the state level, there's no corporate requirement. It doesn't matter *where* I get insurance, just that we have it...otherwise there's a tax hit.


Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 15:17:37
Rush says not one attack happened under Bush.

My fluckin god.

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 15:21:09
Regarding these insurance hikes...

Were these double digit hikes?

Comment by Scoopster on 09/13/2011 15:24:34
Quote by Raine:
Rush says not one attack happened under Bush.

My fluckin god.

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Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 15:26:30
Scoop you okay? Fall on the keyboard?

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 15:31:49
Quote by Raine:
Mala did you hear about this? I'm assuming it didn't affect you.
Wrong link. I meant this:

Oy. slow internets today.


Comment by Scoopster on 09/13/2011 15:32:41
Quote by wickedpam:
Scoop you okay? Fall on the keyboard?

Actually I'm now fighting the overwhelming urge to go visit the EIB studios with a aluminum baseball bat.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 15:36:28
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Mala did you hear about this? I'm assuming it didn't affect you.
Wrong link. I meant this:

Oy. slow internets today.



yeah, I'd heard something in passing about it on the way to work, have no clue where Zebeedee Street is - gotta think its close but not close enough to effect our water

Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 15:37:27
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by wickedpam:
Scoop you okay? Fall on the keyboard?

Actually I'm now fighting the overwhelming urge to go visit the EIB studios with a aluminum baseball bat.



oh dear

Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 15:38:22
Quote by Raine:
Regarding these insurance hikes...

Were these double digit hikes?


20%.

Might be worth passing the article along to our HR folks.




Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 15:46:50
If I may join on on the litany of insurance complaints. 95.00 bucks every two weeks. Just for me.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 15:49:15
Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 15:49:59
Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 16:02:39
Quote by TriSec:
Quote by Raine:
Regarding these insurance hikes...

Were these double digit hikes?


20%.

Might be worth passing the article along to our HR folks.


Yup, it is worth passing along.


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 16:18:08
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spaysa/files/legacy/kittens.jpg



Kittens!

http://media12.onsugar.com/files/2011/08/35/1/1888/18883920/69490bdb0e542261_yorkie_puppies_A.jpg


Puppies!


Today's blog has been kind of a bummer, so I thought so cuteness was in order.

Comment by livingonli on 09/13/2011 16:18:21
Good day folks. Glad I was at work and didn't have to sit through the teabagger debate. But then again, if I was home, I would have watched the Pats game. Actually have to go in early today since we have the last Ranger game in the skills competition from Traverse City this afternoon. It's weird to start doing hockey a month before the season starts.

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 16:39:13
I am sick of this. SICK!

The GOP is threatening ANOTHER government shutdown,

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 16:40:27


How far is this from the Casa de TriSec? I mean it is very disturbing to have this happen in your fair city.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 16:47:24
Quote by Raine:
I am sick of this. SICK!

The GOP is threatening ANOTHER government shutdown,



As my 11 year old cousin if fond of saying - Really?.....Really?

Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 16:48:41
1/2 mile, tops?

The helicopters were all hovering overhead last night for their shots. I was waiting for Channel 5 to crash into the Fux Gnus air wing.



Comment by Scoopster on 09/13/2011 16:50:43
Sooo it turns out that the Postal Service crisis is easily fixable

Not only that, the reason they're in a crisis in the first place is a law pushed & passed by the Republican Congress in 2006!

Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 16:51:03
Comment by livingonli on 09/13/2011 16:52:34
Quote by Scoopster:
Sooo it turns out that the Postal Service crisis is easily fixable

Not only that, the reason they're in a crisis in the first place is a law pushed & passed by the Republican Congress in 2006!

The GOP philosophy is that Government is bad so they need to be put into power so they can make sure that it doesn't work.

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 16:53:58
Quote by TriSec:
1/2 mile, tops?

The helicopters were all hovering overhead last night for their shots. I was waiting for Channel 5 to crash into the Fux Gnus air wing.

That is WAY too close for comfort.


Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 16:55:56
Quote by Scoopster:
Sooo it turns out that the Postal Service crisis is easily fixable

Not only that, the reason they're in a crisis in the first place is a law pushed & passed by the Republican Congress in 2006!
Wow.

Just seriously, Wow. They are actively trying do destroy the USPS.


Comment by BobR on 09/13/2011 17:00:41
Quote by TriSec:

Map

well TriSec - I didn't know this was so close to you: Watch City Brewing. Maybe we will come visit after all...

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 17:02:57
Quote by TriSec:

Map



Wait a minute! There is an Aston-Martin dealership in Waltham???

Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 17:03:23
Quote by BobR:

well TriSec - I didn't know this was so close to you: Watch City Brewing. Maybe we will come visit after all...


Ah, we've got two good pubs in the Skellig and the Mad Raven, too!


Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 17:05:32
That happened right in my Scout district....my Pack Treasurer lives on the next street over (Willow) and I've got maybe a half-dozen kids from that block in the pack.

The Aston-Martin guys are pricks, but curiously enough there's always been an exotic car dealer in that location. (They've been through Alfa-Romeo, Maserati, Bentley, and Lotus in the time we've been in town.)



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 17:10:40
Quote by TriSec:

The Aston-Martin guys are pricks, but curiously enough there's always been an exotic car dealer in that location. (They've been through Alfa-Romeo, Maserati, Bentley, and Lotus in the time we've been in town.)




That would go without saying, Sir. Exotic English car sales and service people=pricks! Or as Jerry & Jerry Sizzler would say, prrricks!



Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 17:10:41
Exotic dealer, not so far-fetched, BTW.

Waltham sits right in between Belmont and Weston, which are the two highest-income towns in the state.



Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 17:11:44
Quote by TriSec:
Exotic dealer, not so far-fetched, BTW.

Waltham sits right in between Belmont and Weston, which are the two highest-income towns in the state.




I figured it had to be conviently located near rich people.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 17:19:45
So where is the famous Kwaloon, Tri? Louie CK did stand up there early in his career. This was before he came up his famous bit about his then infant daughter being an asshole.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 17:24:26
During an interview with Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld on the Opie and Anthony radio show, Louis C.K. famously asked Rumsfeld whether he is in fact a Mexican baby-eating space lizard "who eats the poor." Rumsfeld declined to comment.





Comment by Scoopster on 09/13/2011 17:27:55
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/8144b10b0385634418594f9a1fd82249.PNG


Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 17:48:13
Quote by Mondobubba:
So where is the famous Kwaloon, Tri? Louie CK did stand up there early in his career. This was before he came up his famous bit about his then infant daughter being an asshole.


Route 1 NB, Saugus



http://f33.yahoofs.com/mapann/1257/sr_ab20a9ae3d709b.jpg?lc_____DydcGFcXe


Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 17:57:20
Quote by Scoopster:
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/8144b10b0385634418594f9a1fd82249.PNG





Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 17:58:11
new guys is NOT racking up gold stars - Do NOT send someone to me to fill out a form for you. I am NOT a Secretary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And still I have to give him the benefit of the doubt cause he's new. at this point he's just pissing me off.

Comment by BobR on 09/13/2011 18:07:10
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by TriSec:

Map


Wait a minute! There is an Aston-Martin dealership in Waltham???

When I lived in Palmyra (pop 5000), we had a Rolls-Royce/Corvette dealership. I always wondered how the hell he managed to stay in business.


Comment by BobR on 09/13/2011 18:09:01
Quote by wickedpam:
new guys is NOT racking up gold stars - Do NOT send someone to me to fill out a form for you. I am NOT a Secretary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And still I have to give him the benefit of the doubt cause he's new. at this point he's just pissing me off.

You could nicely say "well that's not normally something I do, but we'll let it slide THIS time", and then flash a big smile


Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 18:13:27
Quote by BobR:

You could nicely say "well that's not normally something I do, but we'll let it slide THIS time", and then flash a big smile


I'd go with evil hate beams.




Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 18:14:49
Quote by BobR:
Quote by wickedpam:
new guys is NOT racking up gold stars - Do NOT send someone to me to fill out a form for you. I am NOT a Secretary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And still I have to give him the benefit of the doubt cause he's new. at this point he's just pissing me off.

You could nicely say "well that's not normally something I do, but we'll let it slide THIS time", and then flash a big smile


not sure that's going to work with his guy since he kinda just dumps this stuff in front of me via email or a supplier walking into my office! My office is a mess and I don't wear shoes upstairs, I don't want suppliers up here!

Talked to another manager I work with and he's just saying hold on for a little bit and then something could be said, but he's really messing with my timeline for normal stuff I have to get done.

I know I'm whining, I know he's new. I know I should give him some time to learn. BUT he's needs to step back and see how we do things before he jumps in like this

Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 18:15:47
Have I mentioned I don't handle big change very well? Sorry for the outburst

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 18:30:00
Quote by wickedpam:
Have I mentioned I don't handle big change very well? Sorry for the outburst

Don't be sorry. This is a big change. Keep track of all that you are saying.

(Like your rant) and save it in a note on you computer.



Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 18:31:08
And I would make sure you take care of normal stuff you have to get done, first. This guy doesn't seem to realize that you are not his secretary.

Comment by BobR on 09/13/2011 18:33:06
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by TriSec:
Exotic dealer, not so far-fetched, BTW.

Waltham sits right in between Belmont and Weston, which are the two highest-income towns in the state.



I figured it had to be conviently located near rich people.

Yeah - the drug dealers...


Comment by BobR on 09/13/2011 18:35:09
Quote by Raine:
And I would make sure you take care of normal stuff you have to get done, first. This guy doesn't seem to realize that you are not his secretary.

Exactly - then if he asks why his stuff is not getting done in a timely manner, you can mention you have these other responsibilities (and list them for him).

Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 18:41:11
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
And I would make sure you take care of normal stuff you have to get done, first. This guy doesn't seem to realize that you are not his secretary.

Exactly - then if he asks why his stuff is not getting done in a timely manner, you can mention you have these other responsibilities (and list them for him).


Thats kind of what I've been trying to do, just not sure if he's the kind of person who runs and tells on a person for not doing their stuff first- I've had a few reps like that and they always seem to get their way


Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 18:43:46
Mala, has he made clear what he expects from you?

I hate saying it that way, but there seems to be a real communication problem from his end.

Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 18:45:54
Desperate times call for desperate measures.

I am taking the "miracle radio" home this evening to listen to the game so Mr. Wakefield can finally get #200, as well as getting the Sux out of their tailspin.



Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 18:48:38
nope he's hasn't said anything - but here's the thing - he's supposed to work into our patterns not vice versa. I don't mind new ideas on how to do stuff - have no problem with that what so ever. What I do mind is stuff that I've never done in 16+ years being shoved on me without warning cause he's making the assumption that I'm just some secretarial type person.

Don't get me wrong Sects and AA kick butt and take names but I do more then that

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 18:53:34
Like I said, when you rant here, save a copy --



Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 18:56:56
Quote by Raine:
Like I said, when you rant here, save a copy --



I'll have to do it on my home computer

Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 19:02:59
"Seek first to understand, then be understood".

A business platitude, yes....but you can't just waltz into a new situation and expect to have your way immediately unless you're the President.



Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 19:05:45
Quote by TriSec:
"Seek first to understand, then be understood".

A business platitude, yes....but you can't just waltz into a new situation and expect to have your way immediately unless you're the President.

Not if you re a black president....


Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 19:10:45
Quote by TriSec:
"Seek first to understand, then be understood".

A business platitude, yes....but you can't just waltz into a new situation and expect to have your way immediately unless you're the President.




or a General Sales Manager/VP

Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 19:12:33
Quote by Raine:
Quote by TriSec:
"Seek first to understand, then be understood".

A business platitude, yes....but you can't just waltz into a new situation and expect to have your way immediately unless you're the President.

Not if you re a black president....





Comment by livingonli on 09/13/2011 19:14:32
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
"Seek first to understand, then be understood".

A business platitude, yes....but you can't just waltz into a new situation and expect to have your way immediately unless you're the President.




or a General Sales Manager/VP

Maybe he needs to see 9 to 5.

And here I am doing my afternoon skills competition game. As long as I don't hear a hockey player complaining about missing General Hospital.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 19:18:36
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by TriSec:
Exotic dealer, not so far-fetched, BTW.

Waltham sits right in between Belmont and Weston, which are the two highest-income towns in the state.



I figured it had to be conviently located near rich people.

Yeah - the drug dealers...


Or close to Brandis University!

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 19:20:31
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by TriSec:

Map


Wait a minute! There is an Aston-Martin dealership in Waltham???

When I lived in Palmyra (pop 5000), we had a Rolls-Royce/Corvette dealership. I always wondered how the hell he managed to stay in business.


Yeah cause when I think Palmyra-Leroy metro area I think big money!

Comment by Scoopster on 09/13/2011 19:29:31
http://images.bluegartr.com/bucket/gallery/890b61d3c509cdd194e8c3c82b10eb2f.png


Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 19:40:42
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
"Seek first to understand, then be understood".

A business platitude, yes....but you can't just waltz into a new situation and expect to have your way immediately unless you're the President.




or a General Sales Manager/VP

Maybe he needs to see 9 to 5.



I think I mentioned that last week.

Comment by wickedpam on 09/13/2011 19:46:12
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
"Seek first to understand, then be understood".

A business platitude, yes....but you can't just waltz into a new situation and expect to have your way immediately unless you're the President.




or a General Sales Manager/VP

Maybe he needs to see 9 to 5.



I think I mentioned that last week.



you did - but not going to work with this guy - plus I have to be careful that I'm not being "team player"

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 20:00:22
Comment by livingonli on 09/13/2011 20:02:20
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by TriSec:
"Seek first to understand, then be understood".

A business platitude, yes....but you can't just waltz into a new situation and expect to have your way immediately unless you're the President.




or a General Sales Manager/VP

Maybe he needs to see 9 to 5.



I think I mentioned that last week.



you did - but not going to work with this guy - plus I have to be careful that I'm not being "team player"

Good thing I don't pull out the old 2 x 4. But then again subtlety's not my strong point.

Comment by livingonli on 09/13/2011 20:04:59

When I plotted Belmont in 30 on Sunday I didn't even notice that and surprised that the host didn't mention it.

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 20:10:01
Warren is running for Senate! (I'd give you the link to TPM, but the traffic there is off the hook and the connection dropped.)

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 20:11:13
Comment by TriSec on 09/13/2011 20:22:37
Well, well. That can only be a good thing.



Comment by Will in Chicago on 09/13/2011 22:19:32
Quote by Raine:
I am sick of this. SICK!

The GOP is threatening ANOTHER government shutdown,


If the GOP does this, I hope that the American people will reject them completely. We now have people willing to play games with the fiscal soundness of our nation.

Comment by Raine on 09/13/2011 22:24:38
Some good news. Senate votes for disaster aid.

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 22:26:08
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 22:29:58
Quote by Raine:
Some good news. Senate votes for disaster aid.



How nice of David "Adult Baby" Vitter to, a; show up and b; vote correctly. Have I mentioned that I, like John Waters have issues with the adult baby community?

Comment by Mondobubba on 09/13/2011 22:33:04
Hey! On this day in 1501 Michelangelo started working on he statue of David.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/14/2011 01:07:45
Sox up 10-5 in 6th, Wakefield still going for win #200. If things go true to form, Wakefield will come out for the 7th and Francoma will keep him in until the Blue Jays tie it. Then the bullpen will finish the choke job.

Comment by clintster on 09/14/2011 03:02:33
Just in case you missed it... apparently using binder clips is "chintzy".