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Author: TriSec    Date: 10/22/2013 10:22:31

Good Morning.

Today is our 4,398th day in Afghanistan.

We'll start this morning as we always do; with the latest casualty figures from our ongoing war, courtesy of Antiwar.com:

US Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 2,284
Other Military Deaths - Afghanistan: 1,105

We find this morning's cost of war passing through:

$ 1, 482, 616, 500, 000 .00


Although not really a Veteran's Issue, I can't resist posting the latest news about the NSA. Seems like we've managed to annoy the French with our spying, to the point where the US Ambassador to France was summoned to the Foreign Ministry for an explanation. In the diplomatic world, that is significant. We used to rail against this sort of thing when Bush did it - what happened?



France has called for an explanation for the “unacceptable” and “shocking” reports of NSA spying on French citizens. Leaked documents revealed the spy agency records millions of phone calls and monitors politicians and high-profile business people.

The US Ambassador to France Charles Rivkin was summoned by the French Foreign Ministry to account for the espionage allegations on Monday morning.

"I have immediately summoned the US ambassador and he will be received this morning at the Quai d'Orsay [the French Foreign Ministry]," French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius told press. He added that “we must quickly assure that these practices aren't repeated.”

The media scandal triggered a phone call between US President Barack Obama and French President Francois Hollande who, according to the White House, discussed “legitimate questions” raised by US “friends and allies” about how the surveillance capabilities are employed. Obama reportedly assured Hollande that the US was reviewing the way it gathers intelligence.

In addition, citing the report on French publication Le Monde, Interior Minister Manuel Valls spoke out on national television against US spy practices.

“The revelations on Le Monde are shocking and demand adequate explanations from the American authorities in the coming hours,” said Valls on television channel Europe 1.


But, on to our veterans. Like most weeks, there's quite a few disconnected stories swirling about, so in we go. We've been writing about this one for years, and now the American Legion has weighed in on PTSD and TBI. We know that despite all the efforts put in over the last decade....it's still not enough.


The nation’s largest veterans group says the Veterans Affairs Department and Pentagon are not doing enough to treat veterans with post-traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury.

Calling current medical protocols and treatments at VA and DoD “limited and inadequate,” the American Legion urged the two departments to provide more non-pharmaceutical care and invest research dollars in complementary and alternative medical therapies such as acupuncture, yoga and biofeedback.

In a new report, a seven-member Legion committee largely found that DoD and VA have “no well-defined approach to the treatment of TBI” and veterans who seek care at VA for PTSD are 2½ times more likely to be prescribed opioid pain medications than those experiencing chronic pain.

“The fact that there is an emphasis on drugs as opposed to other treatments, that these guys and gals are going in there with issues and the answer is to prescribe them drugs, is incredible. There are alternatives,” said William Detweiler, chairman of the panel that drafted the report, titled “The War Within,” and a past national commander of the American Legion.

The report advocates for research on non-medical alternative care and medical treatments such as hyperbaric oxygen therapy, or HBOT, for traumatic brain injury, a therapy currently under study in DoD.

The first two of four DoD-sponsored HBOT studies have found no significant benefit from using pressurized oxygen on troops with persistent symptoms of mild traumatic brain injury. But Detweiler said more independent study must be undertaken, not only with HBOT but other treatments such as acupuncture.

“To some extent, I wonder if these studies are tainted before they start,” Detweiler mused, discussing the pressure he believes physicians and the government feel from pharmaceutical companies that manufacturer psychiatric and pain medications. “We need to get the wolf out of the hen house and have independent studies on these therapies.”


Indeed, it may be all about the drugs. While he's no veteran, a dear friend of mine has been battling particular demons for the better part of two decades now. He's spent much of this past summer in the hospital, and indeed is still in treatment even as I write this. But for our veterans, the problem is much worse.


Before he found relief from crippling back pain with an electrode embedded in his spine, retired Army First Sgt. Justin Minyard downed OxyContin, oxycodone and Vicodin pills and sometimes slapped on a Fentanyl patch prescribed by Veterans Affairs Department doctors to vanquish his pain.

The Iraq war veteran, who first hurt his back during search and recovery operations at the Pentagon on 9/11, became addicted to the powerful painkillers, living life in a fog and counting the minutes until his next dose, he said.

“I was taking enough pills daily to treat four terminally ill cancer patients,” Minyard testified before Congress on Thursday.

According to media reports, the Government Accountability Office, and widows and retired troops speaking before a House Veterans Affairs health panel Thursday, VA physicians are over-prescribing medications, writing scripts for addictive drugs and issuing multiple medications to patients without regard to their distribution, side effects or potential lethality.

Data obtained by the Center of Investigative Reporting through the Freedom of Information Act published last month shows prescriptions for opiates like hydrocodone, oxycodone, methadone and morphine have increased 270 percent in the past 12 years at VA.

The investigation also found that on average, VA has issued more than one opiate prescription per patient for the past two years.

The hearing took a detailed look at VA’s oversight of prescriptions, the transition of care and medications between the Pentagon and VA when troops leave active duty, and quality control measures at VA to ensure patient safety.

Witnesses tearfully described lives shattered by addiction, unmanaged pain and accidental drug overdoses.

Heather McDonald found her husband Scott “cold and unresponsive” on Sept. 13, 2012. Among the causes of death for the 35-year-old former Army specialist: liver failure caused by drug toxicity.

Her husband never was offered or received a test to monitor whether the drugs he was prescribed were harming his kidneys or liver.

“Tests that can save lives are not being performed,” McDonald said. “A simple ‘I am in pain’ seems to be a good enough evaluation to prescribe painkillers.”

Dr. Robert Jesse, principal deputy under secretary for health at the Veterans Health Administration, expressed deep regret to the widows and former troops and said VA historically has been at the forefront of chronic pain management and mental health treatments associated with prescribing opiates.

He added that VA is working to address issues with ongoing initiatives and improved training.


I've been on a couple of those drugs enumerated myself; both in-hospital and post-surgery last year. Oxycontin, in particular, is a fascinating drug...in me, at least it produced a near dream-like state during the day, and fantastic vivid dreams at night. I could see how one could become addicted to it. But I stopped as soon as I could.
 

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Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/22/2013 11:16:49
ugh

Mrs. Rabbit was admitted to hospital early early this morning.

She never made it to work yesterday. When I got home from work, the TV was on and the cats were unfed. Got a call from her friend saying that Mrs. Rabbit was lost and out of gas and AAA was on its way. I finally got a hold of her and it was apparent she knew nothing about what was going on so I begged her to call 911 and of course she wouldn't because "she was fine". Even got my town police to ask her to call and she refused "she was fine and knew where she was". A few minutes later Upton Police called me and said they stopped her for driving erratically and EMTs were checking her over. A CT didn't show anything so they're doing an MRI this morning and she'll be checked over by a neurologist.

She's been getting more forgetful lately but this is a whole 'nother level.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/22/2013 12:59:39
Mornin' all.. oh man Rabbit I hope she's okay. ~~~~~~~~~ sendin' those vibes! ~~~~~~~~~

Back when I was still living in CT my mom went through a similar 'wandering' incident.. mixing booze and allergy medication is no joke!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 13:02:50
Oh Rabbit! Sending you both ~~~~~~~ positive thoughts and prayers ~~~~~~~~~

Please let us know if there is anything we can help with!



Morning

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 13:05:20
Oh dear! All the best to Mrs Rabbit.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 13:05:51
In other news, it just started pouring rain here. Think Queen.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 13:20:56
good morning!

~~~~~ ~~~~~

to the Rabbits.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 13:37:02
I just read the original article. Disturbing.

I know it happens all the time with other places of higher learning, but it's still a bad practice.


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 13:43:18
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 14:23:04
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 14:24:33
Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 14:25:05
Well just show that Art knows nothing about government contracting

Comment by Scoopster on 10/22/2013 14:28:34
On my second day of cutting out my daily triple-shot of espresso.. ugh can't think straight. Need caffeine!
It's ok.. just breathe, think happy thoughts. And don't strangle the coworkers.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 14:31:29


So yeah... she's a plant? WTF?

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 14:35:51
Quote by wickedpam:
Well just show that Art knows nothing about government contracting
I will give him props for this, he's not a talking point troll.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 14:39:55
Quote by Raine:
That's full of win!



My favorite is the leg lamp.

Comment by Scoopster on 10/22/2013 14:40:49
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
That's full of win!

My favorite is the leg lamp.

IT'S A MAJOR AWARD!

Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 14:41:11
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Well just show that Art knows nothing about government contracting
I will give him props for this, he's not a talking point troll.



and he's mostly very polite.

I still worry about him.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 14:42:25
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
That's full of win!

My favorite is the leg lamp.

IT'S A MAJOR AWARD!
FrahgEElay...


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 14:42:34
Quote by Scoopster:
On my second day of cutting out my daily triple-shot of espresso.. ugh can't think straight. Need caffeine!
It's ok.. just breathe, think happy thoughts. And don't strangle the coworkers.



Go to the happy place, Scoop.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 14:43:55
Turns out, the woman has diabetes and was pregnant!

Up next any moment,,, the right wing will say Obama got her pregnant on purpose...




Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 14:52:15
I hope those numbers transfer to local races!

Comment by Scoopster on 10/22/2013 14:54:35
Quote by Raine:
Turns out, the woman has diabetes and was pregnant!

Up next any moment,,, the right wing will say Obama got her pregnant on purpose...

SEKRIT MUSLIM JUNGLE FEVER LOVE CHILD!

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 14:55:08
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Turns out, the woman has diabetes and was pregnant!

Up next any moment,,, the right wing will say Obama got her pregnant on purpose...

SEKRIT MUSLIM JUNGLE FEVER LOVE CHILD!



Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 14:57:31
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by Raine:
Turns out, the woman has diabetes and was pregnant!

Up next any moment,,, the right wing will say Obama got her pregnant on purpose...

SEKRIT MUSLIM JUNGLE FEVER LOVE CHILD!



You need that caffeine, sir. You're shouting.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 14:59:14
Quote by wickedpam:
I hope those numbers transfer to local races!
I've been reading that Virginia may do very well in November.

We could take Gov, Lt. Gov, AG and current VA Dem party chair Charnielle Herring!


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 14:59:50
Quote by Raine:
Turns out, the woman has diabetes and was pregnant!

Up next any moment,,, the right wing will say Obama got her pregnant on purpose...




But Bush! Leftist said the same thing about Bush! :foams at mouth:

Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 15:02:32
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
I hope those numbers transfer to local races!
I've been reading that Virginia may do very well in November.

We could take Gov, Lt. Gov, AG and current VA Dem party chair Charnielle Herring!



what about Miller and Marshall - I haven't see any numbers for those races

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 15:11:32
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
I hope those numbers transfer to local races!
I've been reading that Virginia may do very well in November.

We could take Gov, Lt. Gov, AG and current VA Dem party chair Charnielle Herring!



what about Miller and Marshall - I haven't see any numbers for those races
HAve you scoped out Blue Virginia lately? Ben Tribbet might have something here. (I wish he had a website that was less clunky) There are a lot of great links there as well.


Comment by Scoopster on 10/22/2013 15:12:19
This article is so sad, and maddening.

We really aren't gonna learn to be proper stewards of this planet before it's too late, are we?

Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 15:22:48
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
I hope those numbers transfer to local races!
I've been reading that Virginia may do very well in November.

We could take Gov, Lt. Gov, AG and current VA Dem party chair Charnielle Herring!



what about Miller and Marshall - I haven't see any numbers for those races
HAve you scoped out Blue Virginia lately? Ben Tribbet might have something here. (I wish he had a website that was less clunky) There are a lot of great links there as well.


not yet - Richard and Atif have been our going door to door all over their districts actually meeting people. first time I saw Miller in years was at the Manassas Fall Jubilee

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 15:24:56
HEre you go, MAla -- from Sunday. Not much, but I tend to believe the part I bolded.
I'll also touch on two districts that I don't think fit in this region, but based on the lack of a Southside region are probably here anyway: Danville's 14th and Halifax's 60th. African Americans make up over a third of these districts, but strong Republican voting patterns by white voters produce close elections. The 14th is a little bit more Democratic and has drawn more attention this year, but Danny Marshall is swamping his Democratic opponent so far in fundraising. Gary Miller has the backing of the party and is working with the same set of consultants as other top races, but I haven't heard anything positive leaked about the campaign so far. That could be a sign that he's not performing well, or Democrats may not want to send up a red flag that the GOP should flood this district and squash Miller. If Miller wins, it's going to be on the back of a narrow McAuliffe victory in the district from a turnout advantage. If I was involved in the race, I'd keep my mouth shut even if it is close.


Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 15:29:28
Quote by Raine:
HEre you go, MAla -- from Sunday. Not much, but I tend to believe the part I bolded.
I'll also touch on two districts that I don't think fit in this region, but based on the lack of a Southside region are probably here anyway: Danville's 14th and Halifax's 60th. African Americans make up over a third of these districts, but strong Republican voting patterns by white voters produce close elections. The 14th is a little bit more Democratic and has drawn more attention this year, but Danny Marshall is swamping his Democratic opponent so far in fundraising. Gary Miller has the backing of the party and is working with the same set of consultants as other top races, but I haven't heard anything positive leaked about the campaign so far. That could be a sign that he's not performing well, or Democrats may not want to send up a red flag that the GOP should flood this district and squash Miller. If Miller wins, it's going to be on the back of a narrow McAuliffe victory in the district from a turnout advantage. If I was involved in the race, I'd keep my mouth shut even if it is close.


Think that's the wrong Miller and Marsh (who knew VA had so many) Jackson Miller (asshat), Bob Marshall (crazy asshat) at the two I want gone


Comment by TriSec on 10/22/2013 15:39:59
Morning, folks.

I can't find the source, but I did post it to my book of face yesterday; the Utah Council has responded strongly to those asshats and kicked them out.

I see other stories this morning that a Federal Investigation is now pending.

Welcome to a world of hurt, ya idjits.



Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 15:43:43
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
HEre you go, MAla -- from Sunday. Not much, but I tend to believe the part I bolded.
I'll also touch on two districts that I don't think fit in this region, but based on the lack of a Southside region are probably here anyway: Danville's 14th and Halifax's 60th. African Americans make up over a third of these districts, but strong Republican voting patterns by white voters produce close elections. The 14th is a little bit more Democratic and has drawn more attention this year, but Danny Marshall is swamping his Democratic opponent so far in fundraising. Gary Miller has the backing of the party and is working with the same set of consultants as other top races, but I haven't heard anything positive leaked about the campaign so far. That could be a sign that he's not performing well, or Democrats may not want to send up a red flag that the GOP should flood this district and squash Miller. If Miller wins, it's going to be on the back of a narrow McAuliffe victory in the district from a turnout advantage. If I was involved in the race, I'd keep my mouth shut even if it is close.


Think that's the wrong Miller and Marsh (who knew VA had so many) Jackson Miller (asshat), Bob Marshall (crazy asshat) at the two I want gone
ooOOoo--oops. I was kinda wondering why you wanted to know about that race.


Comment by velveeta jones on 10/22/2013 15:45:25
Sending prayers to the Rabbit family. Hope all is well.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 15:46:24
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, folks.

I can't find the source, but I did post it to my book of face yesterday; the Utah Council has responded strongly to those asshats and kicked them out.

I see other stories this morning that a Federal Investigation is now pending.

Welcome to a world of hurt, ya idjits.

Good.

They may throw in some insurance fraud as well.


Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 15:50:32
What district are you MAla?

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 15:51:46
Dear random woman who was on the elevator with me. Do you really need to have your phone, tablet and your laptop with you? You know you can do this magical thing called syncing so all of your data is on each of those devices.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 15:53:57
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
HEre you go, MAla -- from Sunday. Not much, but I tend to believe the part I bolded.
I'll also touch on two districts that I don't think fit in this region, but based on the lack of a Southside region are probably here anyway: Danville's 14th and Halifax's 60th. African Americans make up over a third of these districts, but strong Republican voting patterns by white voters produce close elections. The 14th is a little bit more Democratic and has drawn more attention this year, but Danny Marshall is swamping his Democratic opponent so far in fundraising. Gary Miller has the backing of the party and is working with the same set of consultants as other top races, but I haven't heard anything positive leaked about the campaign so far. That could be a sign that he's not performing well, or Democrats may not want to send up a red flag that the GOP should flood this district and squash Miller. If Miller wins, it's going to be on the back of a narrow McAuliffe victory in the district from a turnout advantage. If I was involved in the race, I'd keep my mouth shut even if it is close.


Think that's the wrong Miller and Marsh (who knew VA had so many) Jackson Miller (asshat), Bob Marshall (crazy asshat) at the two I want gone
ooOOoo--oops. I was kinda wondering why you wanted to know about that race.



lol - no worries, I think the state DNC just started putting some energy and money into Atif's race against Bob Marshall so there may be some blood in the water.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 15:54:23
Quote by Raine:
What district are you MAla?


10 is Miller not sure about Bob Marshall

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 15:56:10
Comment by TriSec on 10/22/2013 15:56:36

They may throw in some insurance fraud as well.



Yeah, I heard that too. What is it Dr. Maddow says? We have it on tape?



Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 15:58:36
Quote by TriSec:

They may throw in some insurance fraud as well.



Yeah, I heard that too. What is it Dr. Maddow says? We have it on tape?

I posted the link Sunday. (and yesterday I believe)


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 16:04:02
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 16:06:03
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
What district are you MAla?


10 is Miller not sure about Bob Marshall

13th. Looking into it --

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 16:06:23
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey Raine...

You shush.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 16:06:44
Quote by TriSec:

They may throw in some insurance fraud as well.



Yeah, I heard that too. What is it Dr. Maddow says? We have it on tape?




Insurance fraud? Really? That seems a bit gratuitous.

Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2013 16:13:35
Good day, folks. According to what I heard, the insurance fraud allegations are due to one of the asshats filing a disability claim about a month ago claiming a serious injury in an accident. If he was disable, he couldn't do what he did.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 16:14:21
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by TriSec:

They may throw in some insurance fraud as well.



Yeah, I heard that too. What is it Dr. Maddow says? We have it on tape?




Insurance fraud? Really? That seems a bit gratuitous.
Does no one read the things I post??? FROM SUNDAY:
Taylor, the man who is seen actually shoving the rock to the ground, had filed a personal injury lawsuit against a woman and her father for injuries he says he suffered in a 2009 car crash. Taylor filed the lawsuit at the beginning of September saying that after that accident he injured his back and had to "endure great pain and suffering, disability, impairment, loss of joy of life." Taylor also says in the lawsuit that the accident was "debilitating."

Alan Macdonald says he was surprised when he saw the lawsuit come across his desk. He says his daughter rear-ended several cars during that accident, Taylor, he says, was one of them. Macdonald says no one went to the hospital after the crash.



Comment by BobR on 10/22/2013 16:15:25
Quote by Mondobubba:
Pugs in halloween costumes.

Puggie the Riveter and Lord of the Pugs were awesome

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 16:15:31
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey Raine...

You shush.


:jiggles lure: Oh almost...nope. Darn! She's not taking the bait. That will be the last time time I do this.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 16:15:38
Quote by livingonli:
Good day, folks. According to what I heard, the insurance fraud allegations are due to one of the asshats filing a disability claim about a month ago claiming a serious injury in an accident. If he was disable, he couldn't do what he did.
Thank you Livin. I thought I was just talking to myself...


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 16:17:37
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Pugs in halloween costumes.

Puggie the Riveter and Lord of the Pugs were awesome



The Majestic Renaissance Bug was pretty amazing. Only because you have the tongue hanging out of the mouth pug face.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 16:18:37
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey Raine...

You shush.


:jiggles lure: Oh almost...nope. Darn! She's not taking the bait. That will be the last time time I do this.
No it's not.


You gotta try harder than that.


Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/22/2013 16:18:38
Thanks everyone.



I'm sitting waiting for Verizon to call back about getting my service back. Looks like I lost all my emails that I didn't retrieve. At this point I just want my email address back.

It's going to break her heart when she finds out she lost her new job. When she didn't call in yesterday she was automatically terminated. Not that I see her in any condition to be going anywhere by herself for a long time.

Now I just want to sleep. Cleo is upset that Mommy isn't home.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 16:19:20
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by TriSec:

They may throw in some insurance fraud as well.



Yeah, I heard that too. What is it Dr. Maddow says? We have it on tape?




Insurance fraud? Really? That seems a bit gratuitous.
Does no one read the things I post??? FROM SUNDAY:
Taylor, the man who is seen actually shoving the rock to the ground, had filed a personal injury lawsuit against a woman and her father for injuries he says he suffered in a 2009 car crash. Taylor filed the lawsuit at the beginning of September saying that after that accident he injured his back and had to "endure great pain and suffering, disability, impairment, loss of joy of life." Taylor also says in the lawsuit that the accident was "debilitating."

Alan Macdonald says he was surprised when he saw the lawsuit come across his desk. He says his daughter rear-ended several cars during that accident, Taylor, he says, was one of them. Macdonald says no one went to the hospital after the crash.




Got it know, it has nothing to do with the boulder formation. I was confused.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 16:20:38
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
Hey Raine...

You shush.


:jiggles lure: Oh almost...nope. Darn! She's not taking the bait. That will be the last time time I do this.
No it's not.


You gotta try harder than that.



No more baiting Raine about pizza. I am swearing it off.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 16:22:21
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Thanks everyone.



I'm sitting waiting for Verizon to call back about getting my service back. Looks like I lost all my emails that I didn't retrieve. At this point I just want my email address back.

It's going to break her heart when she finds out she lost her new job. When she didn't call in yesterday she was automatically terminated. Not that I see her in any condition to be going anywhere by herself for a long time.

Now I just want to sleep. Cleo is upset that Mommy isn't home.
Damn. I saw you posted she was having problems on Sunday.


Comment by BobR on 10/22/2013 16:31:07
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 16:35:01
The GOP is really losing it.
Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) dismissed the state’s progress, however, insisting that Obamacare has “completely failed” and arguing that the governor is praising the program for political purposes:

ELLMERS: I know you had the clip of the governor and God bless him. He’s talking about a situation that he supports. American people cannot wait for this. there are hard working taxpayers –

CAROL COSTELLO (HOST): Was the governor joshing us? Is he not telling the truth?
ELLMERS: I’m not exactly sure it is working in Kentucky…..

COSTELLO: So the governor when he says he’s signing up 1,000 people a day and wants to get the 640,000 people in Kentucky insured, he’s just saying that for political purposes?


Bitching about the catatrophic failure of ACA, the fine woman from North CArolina said: American people cannot wait for this.



Wait there is more:



Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 16:42:19
Quote by Raine:
The GOP is really losing it.
Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) dismissed the state’s progress, however, insisting that Obamacare has “completely failed” and arguing that the governor is praising the program for political purposes:

ELLMERS: I know you had the clip of the governor and God bless him. He’s talking about a situation that he supports. American people cannot wait for this. there are hard working taxpayers –

CAROL COSTELLO (HOST): Was the governor joshing us? Is he not telling the truth?
ELLMERS: I’m not exactly sure it is working in Kentucky…..

COSTELLO: So the governor when he says he’s signing up 1,000 people a day and wants to get the 640,000 people in Kentucky insured, he’s just saying that for political purposes?


Bitching about the catatrophic failure of ACA, the fine woman from North CArolina said: American people cannot wait for this.



Wait there is more:

She says the ACA was modeled after Tenessee!


Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 16:52:14
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Thanks everyone.



I'm sitting waiting for Verizon to call back about getting my service back. Looks like I lost all my emails that I didn't retrieve. At this point I just want my email address back.

It's going to break her heart when she finds out she lost her new job. When she didn't call in yesterday she was automatically terminated. Not that I see her in any condition to be going anywhere by herself for a long time.

Now I just want to sleep. Cleo is upset that Mommy isn't home.


oh no, please send her our love Rabbit


Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2013 16:53:57
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Thanks everyone.



I'm sitting waiting for Verizon to call back about getting my service back. Looks like I lost all my emails that I didn't retrieve. At this point I just want my email address back.

It's going to break her heart when she finds out she lost her new job. When she didn't call in yesterday she was automatically terminated. Not that I see her in any condition to be going anywhere by herself for a long time.

Now I just want to sleep. Cleo is upset that Mommy isn't home.


oh no, please send her our love Rabbit

Ditto!

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 17:01:30
Quote by Raine:
The GOP is really losing it.
Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) dismissed the state’s progress, however, insisting that Obamacare has “completely failed” and arguing that the governor is praising the program for political purposes:

ELLMERS: I know you had the clip of the governor and God bless him. He’s talking about a situation that he supports. American people cannot wait for this. there are hard working taxpayers –

CAROL COSTELLO (HOST): Was the governor joshing us? Is he not telling the truth?
ELLMERS: I’m not exactly sure it is working in Kentucky…..

COSTELLO: So the governor when he says he’s signing up 1,000 people a day and wants to get the 640,000 people in Kentucky insured, he’s just saying that for political purposes?


Bitching about the catatrophic failure of ACA, the fine woman from North CArolina said: American people cannot wait for this.



Wait there is more:




How can something have failed completely when it was implemented 22 days ago. Furthermore, none of those who've enrolled actually have coverage yet. Seriously GOP stop.

Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2013 17:09:19
Quote by Mondobubba:
Quote by Raine:
The GOP is really losing it.
Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) dismissed the state’s progress, however, insisting that Obamacare has “completely failed” and arguing that the governor is praising the program for political purposes:

ELLMERS: I know you had the clip of the governor and God bless him. He’s talking about a situation that he supports. American people cannot wait for this. there are hard working taxpayers –

CAROL COSTELLO (HOST): Was the governor joshing us? Is he not telling the truth?
ELLMERS: I’m not exactly sure it is working in Kentucky…..

COSTELLO: So the governor when he says he’s signing up 1,000 people a day and wants to get the 640,000 people in Kentucky insured, he’s just saying that for political purposes?


Bitching about the catatrophic failure of ACA, the fine woman from North CArolina said: American people cannot wait for this.



Wait there is more:




How can something have failed completely when it was implemented 22 days ago. Furthermore, none of those who've enrolled actually have coverage yet. Seriously GOP stop.

As long as Fox News is in their corner, the GOP will continue to live in a fact-free universe.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 17:20:12
Election 2013: Virginia Governor
Virginia Governor: McAuliffe (D) 50%, Cuccinelli ® 33%, Sarvis (L) 8%



Wait for the source....
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Rasmussen!
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Virginia Voters finds McAuliffe with 50% support to Cuccinelli’s 33%. Libertarian candidate Robert Sarvis is a distant third with eight percent (8%) of the vote. Three percent (3%) like some other candidate, while five percent (5%) remain undecided.


Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 17:32:24
And more good news for Virginia:


The survey, conducted by the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling for the League of Conservation Voters, a liberal environmental advocacy group, found McAuliffe taking 57 percent of early voters, compared with 39 percent for GOP Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli.
Not yet breathing a sigh of relief -- but this is very very good news for Virginia and possibly it's the canary in the coal mine for the baggers.

Comment by TriSec on 10/22/2013 17:47:45
I'm sorry - 29 years on, and I can't listen to the Purple Rain soundtrack at anything less than 11.



Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 17:48:09
Quote by Raine:
And more good news for Virginia:


The survey, conducted by the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling for the League of Conservation Voters, a liberal environmental advocacy group, found McAuliffe taking 57 percent of early voters, compared with 39 percent for GOP Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli.
Not yet breathing a sigh of relief -- but this is very very good news for Virginia and possibly it's the canary in the coal mine for the baggers.



lord I hope so

Comment by clintster on 10/22/2013 18:26:52
Maybe I'm missing it and just not watching cable news at the right time, but has there been any discussion of the healthcare.gov website that featured an actual, you know, IT person? I think that might be more helpful than having Michael Smerconish catalog his failures to find an acceptable username.

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 18:32:12
Quote by clintster:
Maybe I'm missing it and just not watching cable news at the right time, but has there been any discussion of the healthcare.gov website that featured an actual, you know, IT person? I think that might be more helpful than having Michael Smerconish catalog his failures to find an acceptable username.



Where would the story be in that? An actual engineer trying to explain how server architecture can be scaled up to meet demand? BORING!



Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 18:33:01
Quote by clintster:
Maybe I'm missing it and just not watching cable news at the right time, but has there been any discussion of the healthcare.gov website that featured an actual, you know, IT person? I think that might be more helpful than having Michael Smerconish catalog his failures to find an acceptable username.
That's a great question, Clint. I don't think I have seen any IT people either.

I still find it interesting that ONLY the states that opted out of the federal Medicaid expansion are the ones having problems with ACA.

That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that it was just last Summer when SCOTUS said they could opt out -- possibly , just possibly -- helping to create code nightmares, could it?




Comment by Scoopster on 10/22/2013 18:36:44
Quote by clintster:
Maybe I'm missing it and just not watching cable news at the right time, but has there been any discussion of the healthcare.gov website that featured an actual, you know, IT person? I think that might be more helpful than having Michael Smerconish catalog his failures to find an acceptable username.

They're too busy hiring people to come up with this kind of shit:

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/881_10150340011879963_1699148138_n.png


Comment by TriSec on 10/22/2013 18:39:37
Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 18:42:47
Quote by Scoopster:
Quote by clintster:
Maybe I'm missing it and just not watching cable news at the right time, but has there been any discussion of the healthcare.gov website that featured an actual, you know, IT person? I think that might be more helpful than having Michael Smerconish catalog his failures to find an acceptable username.

They're too busy hiring people to come up with this kind of shit:

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/881_10150340011879963_1699148138_n.png
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/anarchy1999/Online%20comments/srsly_zps100dbfba.gif



Comment by TriSec on 10/22/2013 18:56:32
Not much happening in this Commonwealth.
God Damn that Mitt Romney, anyway.



Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/22/2013 19:07:38
Looks like Mrs. Rabbit suffered a stroke

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 19:09:29
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Looks like Mrs. Rabbit suffered a stroke



Oh dear. I am so sorry to hear that, Rabbit. Good vibes are being sent your way.

Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 19:10:39
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Looks like Mrs. Rabbit suffered a stroke



oh no! I'm so sorry to hear that. Here's to hoping for a good recovery.

Comment by clintster on 10/22/2013 19:13:45
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Looks like Mrs. Rabbit suffered a stroke


Sorry to hear that, Rabbit. My best wishes and healing thoughts to the Mrs, and to you and the family as well.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 19:15:05
Because the comments are too amazing for words:

Lesbianism? Abortions? Unbiblical womanhood? Oh, my! Basically, Thin Mints are like taking Holy Communion... from Satan.


I look forward to Girl Scout cookie time every year. I have a freezer stocked with Thin Mints, Cunnilingus Crackers, and Sodomy Squares.



Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 19:16:06
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Looks like Mrs. Rabbit suffered a stroke
I was terribly afraid of that.

Oh Rabbit.


Comment by TriSec on 10/22/2013 19:18:45
No love for Boy Scout popcorn? OK, I see.

Bonus - when we go directly to hell, we'll have popping corn!!



Comment by BobR on 10/22/2013 19:19:03
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Looks like Mrs. Rabbit suffered a stroke

oh no... if she was able to walk around, though, does that mean it was a small one? I know there's no such thing as a stroke that does no harm, but some are easier to recover from than others...

Comment by BobR on 10/22/2013 19:21:22
Quote by Raine:
Quote by clintster:
Maybe I'm missing it and just not watching cable news at the right time, but has there been any discussion of the healthcare.gov website that featured an actual, you know, IT person? I think that might be more helpful than having Michael Smerconish catalog his failures to find an acceptable username.
That's a great question, Clint. I don't think I have seen any IT people either.

I still find it interesting that ONLY the states that opted out of the federal Medicaid expansion are the ones having problems with ACA.

That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that it was just last Summer when SCOTUS said they could opt out -- possibly , just possibly -- helping to create code nightmares, could it?

Local news radio WTOP talked to an IT contractor who said part of the problem is that the site sends WAY more data than necessary back and forth, which eats up the available bandwidth for the servers.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 19:24:33
Yes, please please laugh at this -- this one is deserving.


Certain words put the nation's capital on edge.

Shutdown, debt ceiling and even Redskins have had their moments. But few frightful words can compare with snow.

It's a word we may be hearing more of this winter. Meteorologists expect more powder compared with last year.

"We're expecting this winter to be colder than last year, and we're expecting slightly more snow than last year," says Matt Rodgers, a meteorologist with the Washington Post's Capital Weather Gang.

He was on panel addressing a D.C. Council committee about snow preparedness.

"I wouldn't be surprised if we got between 4 and 10 inches," he says.

(snip)

"What is normal?" she asked the panel.

On average, D.C. gets 15 inches of snow. The catch is that amount rarely falls.









Comment by wickedpam on 10/22/2013 19:29:10
Quote by Raine:
Yes, please please laugh at this -- this one is deserving.


Certain words put the nation's capital on edge.

Shutdown, debt ceiling and even Redskins have had their moments. But few frightful words can compare with snow.

It's a word we may be hearing more of this winter. Meteorologists expect more powder compared with last year.

"We're expecting this winter to be colder than last year, and we're expecting slightly more snow than last year," says Matt Rodgers, a meteorologist with the Washington Post's Capital Weather Gang.

He was on panel addressing a D.C. Council committee about snow preparedness.

"I wouldn't be surprised if we got between 4 and 10 inches," he says.

(snip)

"What is normal?" she asked the panel.

On average, D.C. gets 15 inches of snow. The catch is that amount rarely falls.









No. I'm putting my foot down now. No. Snow.

Comment by clintster on 10/22/2013 19:29:36
Quote by Raine:
Yes, please please laugh at this -- this one is deserving.


Certain words put the nation's capital on edge.

Shutdown, debt ceiling and even Redskins have had their moments. But few frightful words can compare with snow.

It's a word we may be hearing more of this winter. Meteorologists expect more powder compared with last year.

"We're expecting this winter to be colder than last year, and we're expecting slightly more snow than last year," says Matt Rodgers, a meteorologist with the Washington Post's Capital Weather Gang.

He was on panel addressing a D.C. Council committee about snow preparedness.

"I wouldn't be surprised if we got between 4 and 10 inches," he says.

(snip)

"What is normal?" she asked the panel.

On average, D.C. gets 15 inches of snow. The catch is that amount rarely falls.








Stand by for the "welp, Al Gore was wrong about global warming" jokes

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 19:43:32
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by clintster:
Maybe I'm missing it and just not watching cable news at the right time, but has there been any discussion of the healthcare.gov website that featured an actual, you know, IT person? I think that might be more helpful than having Michael Smerconish catalog his failures to find an acceptable username.
That's a great question, Clint. I don't think I have seen any IT people either.

I still find it interesting that ONLY the states that opted out of the federal Medicaid expansion are the ones having problems with ACA.

That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that it was just last Summer when SCOTUS said they could opt out -- possibly , just possibly -- helping to create code nightmares, could it?

Local news radio WTOP talked to an IT contractor who said part of the problem is that the site sends WAY more data than necessary back and forth, which eats up the available bandwidth for the servers.
See, that's just bad programming.

Is it true that the company CGI, was fired from Canada for something similar to this?




Comment by TriSec on 10/22/2013 19:44:41
This is where I mock you. I don't think we've had a single storm in the last few winters that didn't drop at least fifteen inches...all at once!



Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 19:46:52
I ask because when I google CGI and fred by Canada, I just see right wing clap trap sites at the top of the list.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 19:48:23
Quote by TriSec:
This is where I mock you. I don't think we've had a single storm in the last few winters that didn't drop at least fifteen inches...all at once!

Anything over 12 inches is worthy of concern. But on noes!1!! 3 inches in this area is, well, IMO

:dontpanic:


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 19:49:12
Quote by Raine:
Because the comments are too amazing for words:

Lesbianism? Abortions? Unbiblical womanhood? Oh, my! Basically, Thin Mints are like taking Holy Communion... from Satan.


I look forward to Girl Scout cookie time every year. I have a freezer stocked with Thin Mints, Cunnilingus Crackers, and Sodomy Squares.





Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 19:56:55
Quote by Raine:
Yes, please please laugh at this -- this one is deserving.


Certain words put the nation's capital on edge.

Shutdown, debt ceiling and even Redskins have had their moments. But few frightful words can compare with snow.

It's a word we may be hearing more of this winter. Meteorologists expect more powder compared with last year.

"We're expecting this winter to be colder than last year, and we're expecting slightly more snow than last year," says Matt Rodgers, a meteorologist with the Washington Post's Capital Weather Gang.

He was on panel addressing a D.C. Council committee about snow preparedness.

"I wouldn't be surprised if we got between 4 and 10 inches," he says.

(snip)

"What is normal?" she asked the panel.

On average, D.C. gets 15 inches of snow. The catch is that amount rarely falls.










you forgot

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/22/2013 20:20:05
Quote by BobR:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Looks like Mrs. Rabbit suffered a stroke

oh no... if she was able to walk around, though, does that mean it was a small one? I know there's no such thing as a stroke that does no harm, but some are easier to recover from than others...

apologies this is on my phone...appears to be memory only, no loss of motor skills. not sure how large an area was affected or if its all new.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 20:22:02
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Looks like Mrs. Rabbit suffered a stroke

oh no... if she was able to walk around, though, does that mean it was a small one? I know there's no such thing as a stroke that does no harm, but some are easier to recover from than others...

apologies this is on my phone...appears to be memory only, no loss of motor skills. not sure how large an area was affected or if its all new.
Don't apologize, ever. You had a shit crapfest of an October.

Please send her love from me and Bob.


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 20:25:34
I agree JP Morgan's fine isn't big enough.

Here is a laundry list of their criminal violations:

Bank Secrecy Act violations;
Money laundering for drug cartels;
Violations of sanction orders against Cuba, Iran, Sudan, and former Liberian strongman Charles Taylor;
Violations related to the Vatican Bank scandal (get on this, Pope Francis!);
Violations of the Commodities Exchange Act;
Failure to segregate customer funds (including one CFTC case where the bank failed to segregate $725 million of its own money from a $9.6 billion account) in the US and UK;
Knowingly executing fictitious trades where the customer, with full knowledge of the bank, was on both sides of the deal;
Various SEC enforcement actions for misrepresentations of CDOs and mortgage-backed securities;
The AG settlement on foreclosure fraud;
The OCC settlement on foreclosure fraud;
Violations of the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act;
Illegal flood insurance commissions;
Fraudulent sale of unregistered securities;
Auto-finance ripoffs;
Illegal increases of overdraft penalties;
Violations of federal ERISA laws as well as those of the state of New York;
Municipal bond market manipulations and acts of bid-rigging, including violations of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act;
Filing of unverified affidavits for credit card debt collections (“as a result of internal control failures that sound eerily similar to the industry’s mortgage servicing failures and foreclosure abuses”);
Energy market manipulation that triggered FERC lawsuits;
“Artificial market making” at Japanese affiliates;
Shifting trading losses on a currency trade to a customer account;
Fraudulent sales of derivatives to the city of Milan, Italy;
Obstruction of justice (including refusing the release of documents in the Bernie Madoff case as well as the case of Peregrine Financial).


WHY DOES JAMIE DIMOND STILL HAVE A JOB???

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 20:26:08
Sit down. Remove any liquids from around your keyboard.

I present this to you, with love:






Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 20:35:06
Interesting.

The Fuh? I got New Mexico?

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 20:37:18
Quote by Raine:
Interesting.

The Fuh? I got New Mexico?
I calmed down and took the test again -- california?

Fuggedaboutit.


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 20:47:29
Quote by Raine:
Sit down. Remove any liquids from around your keyboard.

I present this to you, with love:







I don't even need to view the video. It is Betty Fricking White. Nuff said!

Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 20:50:02
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Interesting.

The Fuh? I got New Mexico?
I calmed down and took the test again -- california?

Fuggedaboutit.



Same here. No, no California. Unless I get a wheelbarrow load of 100 dollar bills and can live in San Francisco.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 21:04:30
Quote by Mondobubba:
I agree JP Morgan's fine isn't big enough.

Here is a laundry list of their criminal violations:

Bank Secrecy Act violations;
Money laundering for drug cartels;
Violations of sanction orders against Cuba, Iran, Sudan, and former Liberian strongman Charles Taylor;
Violations related to the Vatican Bank scandal (get on this, Pope Francis!);
Violations of the Commodities Exchange Act;
Failure to segregate customer funds (including one CFTC case where the bank failed to segregate $725 million of its own money from a $9.6 billion account) in the US and UK;
Knowingly executing fictitious trades where the customer, with full knowledge of the bank, was on both sides of the deal;
Various SEC enforcement actions for misrepresentations of CDOs and mortgage-backed securities;
The AG settlement on foreclosure fraud;
The OCC settlement on foreclosure fraud;
Violations of the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act;
Illegal flood insurance commissions;
Fraudulent sale of unregistered securities;
Auto-finance ripoffs;
Illegal increases of overdraft penalties;
Violations of federal ERISA laws as well as those of the state of New York;
Municipal bond market manipulations and acts of bid-rigging, including violations of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act;
Filing of unverified affidavits for credit card debt collections (“as a result of internal control failures that sound eerily similar to the industry’s mortgage servicing failures and foreclosure abuses”);
Energy market manipulation that triggered FERC lawsuits;
“Artificial market making” at Japanese affiliates;
Shifting trading losses on a currency trade to a customer account;
Fraudulent sales of derivatives to the city of Milan, Italy;
Obstruction of justice (including refusing the release of documents in the Bernie Madoff case as well as the case of Peregrine Financial).


WHY DOES JAMIE DIMOND STILL HAVE A JOB???
Jeebus.

Why don't we have something for global banking like the Hague? I'm not being hyperbolic here. A lot of that stuff is outside the realm of our banking system.





Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 21:12:33
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Mondobubba:
I agree JP Morgan's fine isn't big enough.

Here is a laundry list of their criminal violations:

Bank Secrecy Act violations;
Money laundering for drug cartels;
Violations of sanction orders against Cuba, Iran, Sudan, and former Liberian strongman Charles Taylor;
Violations related to the Vatican Bank scandal (get on this, Pope Francis!);
Violations of the Commodities Exchange Act;
Failure to segregate customer funds (including one CFTC case where the bank failed to segregate $725 million of its own money from a $9.6 billion account) in the US and UK;
Knowingly executing fictitious trades where the customer, with full knowledge of the bank, was on both sides of the deal;
Various SEC enforcement actions for misrepresentations of CDOs and mortgage-backed securities;
The AG settlement on foreclosure fraud;
The OCC settlement on foreclosure fraud;
Violations of the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act;
Illegal flood insurance commissions;
Fraudulent sale of unregistered securities;
Auto-finance ripoffs;
Illegal increases of overdraft penalties;
Violations of federal ERISA laws as well as those of the state of New York;
Municipal bond market manipulations and acts of bid-rigging, including violations of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act;
Filing of unverified affidavits for credit card debt collections (“as a result of internal control failures that sound eerily similar to the industry’s mortgage servicing failures and foreclosure abuses”);
Energy market manipulation that triggered FERC lawsuits;
“Artificial market making” at Japanese affiliates;
Shifting trading losses on a currency trade to a customer account;
Fraudulent sales of derivatives to the city of Milan, Italy;
Obstruction of justice (including refusing the release of documents in the Bernie Madoff case as well as the case of Peregrine Financial).


WHY DOES JAMIE DIMOND STILL HAVE A JOB???
Jeebus.

Why don't we have something for global banking like the Hague? I'm not being hyperbolic here. A lot of that stuff is outside the realm of our banking system.






That is a great idea. I do think every single thing listed is a violation of US law though.


Comment by Mondobubba on 10/22/2013 21:13:39
To get the horrible JP Morgan taste out of your mouth, look at Tottie the Pug. It will make you happy.

Comment by BobR on 10/22/2013 21:30:30
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Interesting.

The Fuh? I got New Mexico?
I calmed down and took the test again -- california?

Fuggedaboutit.

OMFG - I got Florida...

Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2013 21:41:10
If only we could put the people who have run Bank of America and Chase into an equivalent of Alcatraz.

Comment by Raine on 10/22/2013 22:10:31
In which we see Salon totally missing the point.

There is a line. That line is calling a young Oscar nominee a C*nt. This? Not so much.

Settle down Salon -- me thinks you got punked.

Comment by trojanrabbit on 10/22/2013 22:34:20
It looks like Mrs. Rabbit had two strokes, both relatively minor. One affected her vision in one eye, not that her vision was that good to begin with, the other is affecting some memory.

I have a very whiny Cleo to deal with.....

Comment by livingonli on 10/22/2013 23:01:46
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Interesting.

The Fuh? I got New Mexico?
I calmed down and took the test again -- california?

Fuggedaboutit.

OMFG - I got Florida...

I got California.

Comment by TriSec on 10/23/2013 00:47:22
Georgia.

No offense, but I have already downed my cyanide.



Comment by clintster on 10/23/2013 02:57:12
Quote by livingonli:
Quote by BobR:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Interesting.

The Fuh? I got New Mexico?
I calmed down and took the test again -- california?

Fuggedaboutit.

OMFG - I got Florida...

I got California.


Vermont

Comment by Will in Chicago on 10/23/2013 03:49:52
My best wishes for a speedy recovery for Mrs. Rabbit. Hang in there, TR!