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April 20, 1999.
Author: Raine
Date: 04/20/2009 12:38:21
10 years ago today, 12 students and 1 teacher were massacred at Columbine High School. The event sparked great debate in this country about not only our gun laws, but also about the nature of our American psyche and our youth, including the subcultures of cliques, the effect of video games, the music, even the use of anti-depressants medications by our teenagers. We discussed thru our saddened hearts this tragedy and what could be done to stop this from happening again. We discussed gun violence in this country. We talked and talked.
Michael Moore made a movie about it. We saw increased security in our public school, and we said we would never again forget those that were disenfranchised. We promised our children and ourselves that.
On April 16 2007, 32 People were Killed on campus at Virginia Tech. The deadliest peacetime shooting in our country provoked the debate all over again. Last July, a gunman targeted a Church becuase he was led to believe that it was a Liberal church. Earlier this month 14 people were murdered in a Binghamton, NY by a disgruntled immigrant and 4 Pittsburgh police officers were gunned down by a man who thought that the President was going to take away his guns.
We have learned nothing and instead, have become numb to these tragedies. These are murders. They are acts of violence and totally preventable. Most of these people were and are worthy of debate as the the mental state of the American culture both as a group and as individuals. I don't believe that we should take away guns, nor do I believe in unfettered access to munitions. I have been told that guns don't kill people -- and to a certain extent I believe that. I also believe that sick people with guns are a bad combination.
Sadly, as our nation is in a very bad state economically, we are seeing more and more desperate people. The hopelessness of the situations they find themselves in coupled with extremist talk from wherever they hear or read it may be driving them to more acts of violence. Instability and fear are easy to manipulate. We are seeing that everyday.
We not only react less, we don't even remember the names of the victims anymore. That may be the greatest tragedy of Columbine. We forgot to never let it happen again.
These are the Columbine Victims.
Cassie Bernall
Steve Curnow
Corey DePooter
Kelly Fleming
Matt Kechter
Daniel Mauser
Daniel Rohrbough
Rachel Scott
Isaiah Shoels
John Tomlin
Lauren Townsend
Kyle Velasquez
Coach Dave Sanders
I hope they are resting in Peace.
:peace: and
Raine
Michael Moore made a movie about it. We saw increased security in our public school, and we said we would never again forget those that were disenfranchised. We promised our children and ourselves that.
On April 16 2007, 32 People were Killed on campus at Virginia Tech. The deadliest peacetime shooting in our country provoked the debate all over again. Last July, a gunman targeted a Church becuase he was led to believe that it was a Liberal church. Earlier this month 14 people were murdered in a Binghamton, NY by a disgruntled immigrant and 4 Pittsburgh police officers were gunned down by a man who thought that the President was going to take away his guns.
We have learned nothing and instead, have become numb to these tragedies. These are murders. They are acts of violence and totally preventable. Most of these people were and are worthy of debate as the the mental state of the American culture both as a group and as individuals. I don't believe that we should take away guns, nor do I believe in unfettered access to munitions. I have been told that guns don't kill people -- and to a certain extent I believe that. I also believe that sick people with guns are a bad combination.
Sadly, as our nation is in a very bad state economically, we are seeing more and more desperate people. The hopelessness of the situations they find themselves in coupled with extremist talk from wherever they hear or read it may be driving them to more acts of violence. Instability and fear are easy to manipulate. We are seeing that everyday.
We not only react less, we don't even remember the names of the victims anymore. That may be the greatest tragedy of Columbine. We forgot to never let it happen again.
These are the Columbine Victims.
Steve Curnow
Corey DePooter
Kelly Fleming
Matt Kechter
Daniel Mauser
Daniel Rohrbough
Rachel Scott
Isaiah Shoels
John Tomlin
Lauren Townsend
Kyle Velasquez
Coach Dave Sanders
:peace: and
Raine
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Comment by 
BobR on 04/20/2009 12:45:01
BobR on 04/20/2009 12:45:01
Here's hoping we can get through this week this year without some gun nut going postal...
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 04/20/2009 12:53:50
velveeta jones on 04/20/2009 12:53:50
Nice post Raine, may all the victims of random, stupid violence rest in peace. :pray:
Comment by 
wickedpam on 04/20/2009 13:07:02
wickedpam on 04/20/2009 13:07:02
MOrning :hug:
Comment by BobR on 04/20/2009 13:18:31
BobR on 04/20/2009 13:18:31
oh, and Happy Patriots Day! :party:
Comment by 
Scoopster on 04/20/2009 13:24:37
Scoopster on 04/20/2009 13:24:37
Morning all.. and to think there are people who claim the way to prevent tragedies like this from happening is to allow more people to carry guns more openly.
Comment by Scoopster on 04/20/2009 14:04:51
I think the weiner is just unhappy because Mickey Rourke is better looking than him.
Scoopster on 04/20/2009 14:04:51
Quote by wickedpam:
Savage Files Suit Against Napolitano
Anyone see this?
I think the weiner is just unhappy because Mickey Rourke is better looking than him.
Comment by 
Raine on 04/20/2009 14:05:57
Raine on 04/20/2009 14:05:57
Good Morning again Everyone! I have the Monday bluhs.
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 14:07:10
I saw that. I would LOVE to see this suit wind it's way thru the courts, actually.
I would like to see a cross examination by the the defendants regarding the things he has said on air.
Raine on 04/20/2009 14:07:10
Quote by wickedpam:
Savage Files Suit Against Napolitano
Anyone see this?
I saw that. I would LOVE to see this suit wind it's way thru the courts, actually.
I would like to see a cross examination by the the defendants regarding the things he has said on air.
Comment by wickedpam on 04/20/2009 14:08:30
me too :hug:
wickedpam on 04/20/2009 14:08:30
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning again Everyone! I have the Monday bluhs.
me too :hug:
Comment by wickedpam on 04/20/2009 14:09:24
oh that would be interesting - may shoot himself in the foot with this
wickedpam on 04/20/2009 14:09:24
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:
Savage Files Suit Against Napolitano
Anyone see this?
I saw that. I would LOVE to see this suit wind it's way thru the courts, actually.
I would like to see a cross examination by the the defendants regarding the things he has said on air.
oh that would be interesting - may shoot himself in the foot with this
Comment by 
m-hadley on 04/20/2009 14:14:49
me, three :D
Cheers,
mfaye
m-hadley on 04/20/2009 14:14:49
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Good Morning again Everyone! I have the Monday bluhs.
me too :hug:
me, three :D
Cheers,
mfaye
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 14:18:37
Raine on 04/20/2009 14:18:37
Norm got egged! 
Comment by Scoopster on 04/20/2009 14:20:15
Scoopster on 04/20/2009 14:20:15
Ahh poor Norm.. I should go up to Minneapolis and offer him a hit off my bowl. It might calm him down a bit! :lol:
Comment by m-hadley on 04/20/2009 14:21:20
Perhaps the Savage Weiner should have read this morning's newspapers before he filed his lawsuit: US Marine arrested at Logan
Not a threat, eh? I'm just saying....
mfaye
& :peace:
m-hadley on 04/20/2009 14:21:20
Quote by wickedpam:
Savage Files Suit Against Napolitano
Anyone see this?
Perhaps the Savage Weiner should have read this morning's newspapers before he filed his lawsuit: US Marine arrested at Logan
Not a threat, eh? I'm just saying....
mfaye
& :peace:
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 14:29:57
Raine on 04/20/2009 14:29:57
:facepalm: he is such a dolt.
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 14:31:00
Good Gawd.
(hi Faye!)
Raine on 04/20/2009 14:31:00
Quote by m-hadley:Quote by wickedpam:
Savage Files Suit Against Napolitano
Anyone see this?
Perhaps the Savage Weiner should have read this morning's newspapers before he filed his lawsuit: US Marine arrested at Logan
Not a threat, eh? I'm just saying....
mfaye
Good Gawd.
(hi Faye!)
Comment by 
TriSec on 04/20/2009 14:31:02
TriSec on 04/20/2009 14:31:02
Well gang, the Marathon is underway...first pitch at Fenway is in about a half hour. (hmm, are there jets circling about?)
And I've traded voice mails with another lead....right here in Waltham (closer than Watertown!) with a company that Maria worked for not too long ago, and I've tried to get into off and on for about 3 years. Maybe this time is the charm?
And I've traded voice mails with another lead....right here in Waltham (closer than Watertown!) with a company that Maria worked for not too long ago, and I've tried to get into off and on for about 3 years. Maybe this time is the charm?
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 14:43:13
Raine on 04/20/2009 14:43:13
WTF?
This is really not cool. It seems Harman was the Tapped member of congress... But look at what she aledgedly was doing!
This is really not cool. It seems Harman was the Tapped member of congress... But look at what she aledgedly was doing!
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 14:47:46
TPM has more --- Seriously WTF time.
Raine on 04/20/2009 14:47:46
Quote by Raine:
WTF?
This is really not cool. It seems Harman was the Tapped member of congress... But look at what she aledgedly was doing!
TPM has more --- Seriously WTF time.
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 14:52:37
Raine on 04/20/2009 14:52:37
:foil: that was freeky!
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 15:04:58
So Perhaps this was why HArman wasn't named to head the intel committee... Did Pelosi KNOW what was happening?
Raine on 04/20/2009 15:04:58
Quote by Raine:
WTF?
This is really not cool. It seems Harman was the Tapped member of congress... But look at what she aledgedly was doing!
So Perhaps this was why HArman wasn't named to head the intel committee... Did Pelosi KNOW what was happening?
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 15:10:59
Raine on 04/20/2009 15:10:59
AP: Cambridge University says famed mathematician Stephen Hawking has been rushed to a hospital and is very ill.
Oh no... :(
Oh no... :(
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 15:12:22
Link.
Raine on 04/20/2009 15:12:22
Quote by Raine:
AP: Cambridge University says famed mathematician Stephen Hawking has been rushed to a hospital and is very ill.
Oh no... :(
Link.
Comment by Scoopster on 04/20/2009 15:12:41
The article says Pelosi didn't know.. but you know how it'll get spun.
I have plenty of other reasons for not liking Harman, from her continuous approval for the damn war to her approval for Gonzo's domestic spying shenanigans. This just adds more fuel to the fire.
But because it involves anything Israel, it'll get swept under the rug because you know no one wants to upsetthat murderous bunch the chosen people.
Scoopster on 04/20/2009 15:12:41
Quote by Raine:Quote by Raine:
WTF?
This is really not cool. It seems Harman was the Tapped member of congress... But look at what she aledgedly was doing!
So Perhaps this was why HArman wasn't named to head the intel committee... Did Pelosi KNOW what was happening?
The article says Pelosi didn't know.. but you know how it'll get spun.
I have plenty of other reasons for not liking Harman, from her continuous approval for the damn war to her approval for Gonzo's domestic spying shenanigans. This just adds more fuel to the fire.
But because it involves anything Israel, it'll get swept under the rug because you know no one wants to upset
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 15:20:58
Raine on 04/20/2009 15:20:58
Either way this is a clusterf*ck... Harman is in deep doodoo.
Comment by TriSec on 04/20/2009 15:21:32
TriSec on 04/20/2009 15:21:32
Men's wheelchair is in. No surprise there, Ernst Van Dyk in 1:33:29.
Women's leader is Wakako Tsuchida, about a mile from the finish line.
The Pack is back at about the 16 mile mark....
And the Sox are up 1-0, bottom of the first.
Women's leader is Wakako Tsuchida, about a mile from the finish line.
The Pack is back at about the 16 mile mark....
And the Sox are up 1-0, bottom of the first.
Comment by TriSec on 04/20/2009 15:25:56
TriSec on 04/20/2009 15:25:56
Comment by wickedpam on 04/20/2009 15:27:38
wickedpam on 04/20/2009 15:27:38
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 15:46:00
Raine on 04/20/2009 15:46:00
I am hearing the beeping again... Momma is being tapped! :foil:
Comment by wickedpam on 04/20/2009 15:51:10
wickedpam on 04/20/2009 15:51:10
100 days people! Helloooooo - only in for 1-0-0 DAYS 
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 15:56:59
I don't get this *He's Just Like Bush* crowd. My god, have we forgotten the mess left behind and the things he is trying to get done? I would like to see crimes charged and people in Jail, but I also don't want the next 4 years to be stalled with this!
Gah!
Raine on 04/20/2009 15:56:59
Quote by wickedpam:
100 days people! Helloooooo - only in for 1-0-0 DAYS
I don't get this *He's Just Like Bush* crowd. My god, have we forgotten the mess left behind and the things he is trying to get done? I would like to see crimes charged and people in Jail, but I also don't want the next 4 years to be stalled with this!
Gah!
Comment by 
Will in Chicago on 04/20/2009 15:58:49
Will in Chicago on 04/20/2009 15:58:49
Good morning, bloggers! Excellent blog, Raine!
I am off this morning and have errands to run. (I have subbing in the afternoon.)
Let us hope that we will see steps taken to end the sorts of senseless killing we saw 10 years ago. I think that we have to take a hard look at our mental health care system, as too often people who have serious problems gain access to weapons.
I am off this morning and have errands to run. (I have subbing in the afternoon.)
Let us hope that we will see steps taken to end the sorts of senseless killing we saw 10 years ago. I think that we have to take a hard look at our mental health care system, as too often people who have serious problems gain access to weapons.
Comment by m-hadley on 04/20/2009 16:13:38
Back atcha, Raine
:hug:
Cheers,
mfaye :peace:
m-hadley on 04/20/2009 16:13:38
Quote by Raine:Quote by m-hadley:Quote by wickedpam:
Savage Files Suit Against Napolitano
Anyone see this?
Perhaps the Savage Weiner should have read this morning's newspapers before he filed his lawsuit: US Marine arrested at Logan
Not a threat, eh? I'm just saying....
mfaye
Good Gawd.
(hi Faye!)
Back atcha, Raine
:hug:Cheers,
mfaye :peace:
Comment by 
livingonli on 04/20/2009 16:30:00
livingonli on 04/20/2009 16:30:00
Greetings everyone.
Thanks to the Devils game going into overtime and a lot of other crap it was another late night at work. Tonight, I have Rangers game 3 but I hope that I am not stuck in the salt mine until 2 AM again.
Thanks to the Devils game going into overtime and a lot of other crap it was another late night at work. Tonight, I have Rangers game 3 but I hope that I am not stuck in the salt mine until 2 AM again.
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 16:39:38
I really think that if we finally get health care passed, things like unstable people with guns will see a decline.
It is, imo, a healthcare problem.
Raine on 04/20/2009 16:39:38
Quote by Will in Phoenix:
Good morning, bloggers! Excellent blog, Raine!
I am off this morning and have errands to run. (I have subbing in the afternoon.)
Let us hope that we will see steps taken to end the sorts of senseless killing we saw 10 years ago. I think that we have to take a hard look at our mental health care system, as too often people who have serious problems gain access to weapons.
It is, imo, a healthcare problem.
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 17:49:24
Raine on 04/20/2009 17:49:24
Comment by wickedpam on 04/20/2009 17:55:43
yeah, saw that on Perez, she is a dope.
wickedpam on 04/20/2009 17:55:43
Quote by Raine:
Miss California, Likes "Opposite Marriage" Better Than Gay Marriage (VIDEO)
:facepalm:
yeah, saw that on Perez, she is a dope.
Comment by Scoopster on 04/20/2009 18:06:27
Scoopster on 04/20/2009 18:06:27
Happy 4/20 day btw.. I've been holding off on it because of the other, more serious remembrances of this day in history, but the time has now come to lift the spirits of the bloggie, and perhaps get lifted too! :lol:
Comment by livingonli on 04/20/2009 18:17:54
livingonli on 04/20/2009 18:17:54
Another dim-bulb beauty contestant which gave us Gretchen Carlson and Anita Bryant.
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 18:20:05
Raine on 04/20/2009 18:20:05
Happy 4/20 day to you as well, Scoop!
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 18:24:54
Raine on 04/20/2009 18:24:54
Mala: Question about Prez Hilton: Isn't he always kinda Bitchy?
Comment by wickedpam on 04/20/2009 18:37:24
yeah he is, I've been trying to ween myself off that site but his site and TMZ are very hard to quit ;)
wickedpam on 04/20/2009 18:37:24
Quote by Raine:
Mala: Question about Prez Hilton: Isn't he always kinda Bitchy?
yeah he is, I've been trying to ween myself off that site but his site and TMZ are very hard to quit ;)
Comment by livingonli on 04/20/2009 18:40:45
livingonli on 04/20/2009 18:40:45
Off to das salt mine.
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 18:50:34
That is what I thought. someone on my Facebook seemed to think he was over the top, calling Cali Queen a biatch...
Raine on 04/20/2009 18:50:34
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Mala: Question about Prez Hilton: Isn't he always kinda Bitchy?
yeah he is, I've been trying to ween myself off that site but his site and TMZ are very hard to quit ;)
That is what I thought. someone on my Facebook seemed to think he was over the top, calling Cali Queen a biatch...
Comment by Raine on 04/20/2009 18:50:46
Raine on 04/20/2009 18:50:46
Later Liv!
Comment by wickedpam on 04/20/2009 18:58:01
Uber-Diva is how I would put it - believes his own hype
wickedpam on 04/20/2009 18:58:01
Quote by Raine:Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Raine:
Mala: Question about Prez Hilton: Isn't he always kinda Bitchy?
yeah he is, I've been trying to ween myself off that site but his site and TMZ are very hard to quit ;)
That is what I thought. someone on my Facebook seemed to think he was over the top, calling Cali Queen a biatch...
Uber-Diva is how I would put it - believes his own hype
Comment by BobR on 04/20/2009 20:01:02
BobR on 04/20/2009 20:01:02
Back from the job fair - what a disappoint; it was a complete bust.
It was marketed as a "high tech" job fair, with aerospace companies participating. There were 4 - count 'em 4 - companies there (General Dynamics, Unisys, Lockhead-Martin, and Northrop-Grumann).
I waited in line about 10 minutes to talk to a guy from G/D. First question: Do you have an *active* security clearance? No? Sorry... but check online - there may more there.
Next, I waited about 20 minutes to talk to the Unisys person. "We don't have anything that matches your skills - just check online and apply there."
After waiting about an hour to talk to the Northrop rep, she said "I've only got jobs in Boulder, CO, and you need an active security clearance". She said that there might be other jobs in other areas, but I would need to apply online.
I didn't bother with Lockheed - I could guess what the response would be.
So after nearly 2 hrs of standing in line, the takeaway is that I should apply online - which is what I would have been doing had I not wasted the time, gas, and energy to go this so-called "job fair".
:grumble:
It was marketed as a "high tech" job fair, with aerospace companies participating. There were 4 - count 'em 4 - companies there (General Dynamics, Unisys, Lockhead-Martin, and Northrop-Grumann).
I waited in line about 10 minutes to talk to a guy from G/D. First question: Do you have an *active* security clearance? No? Sorry... but check online - there may more there.
Next, I waited about 20 minutes to talk to the Unisys person. "We don't have anything that matches your skills - just check online and apply there."
After waiting about an hour to talk to the Northrop rep, she said "I've only got jobs in Boulder, CO, and you need an active security clearance". She said that there might be other jobs in other areas, but I would need to apply online.
I didn't bother with Lockheed - I could guess what the response would be.
So after nearly 2 hrs of standing in line, the takeaway is that I should apply online - which is what I would have been doing had I not wasted the time, gas, and energy to go this so-called "job fair".
:grumble:
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/20/2009 23:23:30
Will in Chicago on 04/20/2009 23:23:30
Hi, everyone!
I am back from subbing with an announcement on progressive talk radio in Phoenix.
I am back from subbing with an announcement on progressive talk radio in Phoenix.
The Jeff Farias Show will soon be on the airwaves in Phoenix.
Here is the announcement from his site.We are thrilled to announce that starting Monday, May 4th
The Jeff Farias Show will be broadcast live in Phoenix on KXXT 1010 AM.
We will air Monday – Friday from 11:30 AM – 12:30 PM.
The show will also be available streaming at [url]http://www.1280kxeg.com/
We will continue our current broadcasting schedule here and webcast daily from 3 – 6 PM PST and 6 – 9 PM EST.
Today marks the six month anniversary of The Jeff Farias Show.com.
Thanks to all of you for your continued support in this endeavor. None of this would be possible without you.
I consider it a great honor and a responsibilty and will continue to work my hardest to create a program that informs, inspires, and challenges all of us.
Today we will announce some exciting new developments in this ongoing project. Thanks.
Comment by 
clintster on 04/21/2009 01:11:04
clintster on 04/21/2009 01:11:04
Hey Raine, great post!
I can't tell you how strange it was, being a high school teacher and walking down the halls today while thinking about Columbine's tenth anniversary. I've seen (and taught) some students that I have had worries about. We have no metal detectors in our school, but there is at least one sheriff's deputy on campus during the school day. It's simultaneously sad and comforting.
Remember the past; teach the future.
I can't tell you how strange it was, being a high school teacher and walking down the halls today while thinking about Columbine's tenth anniversary. I've seen (and taught) some students that I have had worries about. We have no metal detectors in our school, but there is at least one sheriff's deputy on campus during the school day. It's simultaneously sad and comforting.
Remember the past; teach the future.
Comment by TriSec on 04/21/2009 01:33:29
TriSec on 04/21/2009 01:33:29
Comment by Raine on 04/21/2009 01:42:45
Wonderful! I miss Jeff, and will listen!!!
Raine on 04/21/2009 01:42:45
Quote by Will in Phoenix:
Hi, everyone!
I am back from subbing with an announcement on progressive talk radio in Phoenix.The Jeff Farias Show will soon be on the airwaves in Phoenix.
Here is the announcement from his site.We are thrilled to announce that starting Monday, May 4th
The Jeff Farias Show will be broadcast live in Phoenix on KXXT 1010 AM.
We will air Monday – Friday from 11:30 AM – 12:30 PM.
The show will also be available streaming at [url]http://www.1280kxeg.com/
We will continue our current broadcasting schedule here and webcast daily from 3 – 6 PM PST and 6 – 9 PM EST.
Today marks the six month anniversary of The Jeff Farias Show.com.
Thanks to all of you for your continued support in this endeavor. None of this would be possible without you.
I consider it a great honor and a responsibilty and will continue to work my hardest to create a program that informs, inspires, and challenges all of us.
Today we will announce some exciting new developments in this ongoing project. Thanks.
Wonderful! I miss Jeff, and will listen!!!
Comment by Will in Chicago on 04/21/2009 01:56:16
Jeff is streaming at The Jeff Farias Show-/url] from 6 PM to 9 PM Eastern. So, you can stream him tomorrow. Hopefully, this is a sign that we will see more progressive talk in the Valley of the Sun.
Will in Chicago on 04/21/2009 01:56:16
Quote by Raine:Quote by Will in Phoenix:
Hi, everyone!
I am back from subbing with an announcement on progressive talk radio in Phoenix.The Jeff Farias Show will soon be on the airwaves in Phoenix.
Here is the announcement from his site.We are thrilled to announce that starting Monday, May 4th
The Jeff Farias Show will be broadcast live in Phoenix on KXXT 1010 AM.
We will air Monday – Friday from 11:30 AM – 12:30 PM.
The show will also be available streaming at [url]http://www.1280kxeg.com/
We will continue our current broadcasting schedule here and webcast daily from 3 – 6 PM PST and 6 – 9 PM EST.
Today marks the six month anniversary of The Jeff Farias Show.com.
Thanks to all of you for your continued support in this endeavor. None of this would be possible without you.
I consider it a great honor and a responsibilty and will continue to work my hardest to create a program that informs, inspires, and challenges all of us.
Today we will announce some exciting new developments in this ongoing project. Thanks.
Wonderful! I miss Jeff, and will listen!!!
Jeff is streaming at The Jeff Farias Show-/url] from 6 PM to 9 PM Eastern. So, you can stream him tomorrow. Hopefully, this is a sign that we will see more progressive talk in the Valley of the Sun.
Comment by livingonli on 04/21/2009 06:34:50
That sucks. These things don't make it easier to find a job in this day and age and I have to think of how I am going to get a second source of income.
livingonli on 04/21/2009 06:34:50
Quote by BobR:
Back from the job fair - what a disappoint; it was a complete bust.
It was marketed as a "high tech" job fair, with aerospace companies participating. There were 4 - count 'em 4 - companies there (General Dynamics, Unisys, Lockhead-Martin, and Northrop-Grumann).
I waited in line about 10 minutes to talk to a guy from G/D. First question: Do you have an *active* security clearance? No? Sorry... but check online - there may more there.
Next, I waited about 20 minutes to talk to the Unisys person. "We don't have anything that matches your skills - just check online and apply there."
After waiting about an hour to talk to the Northrop rep, she said "I've only got jobs in Boulder, CO, and you need an active security clearance". She said that there might be other jobs in other areas, but I would need to apply online.
I didn't bother with Lockheed - I could guess what the response would be.
So after nearly 2 hrs of standing in line, the takeaway is that I should apply online - which is what I would have been doing had I not wasted the time, gas, and energy to go this so-called "job fair".
:grumble:
That sucks. These things don't make it easier to find a job in this day and age and I have to think of how I am going to get a second source of income.