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Lunatic Fringe
Author: BobR
Date: 09/30/2009 12:45:50
The protests have died down for now, perhaps because the participants have run out of steam, or they're just preparing for the next round. The last big protest in DC - some 60-70,000 strong was a mixed bag of causes, with signs ranging from the simple to the poorly spelled to the disgustingly offensive. Who are these people and what are the protesting against (and/or what are they for?). They are most often split into one of three camps: The Teabaggers, the Tenthers, and/or The Birthers.
The Teabaggers (or as they normally call themselves: the Tea Party "Patriots") are protesting against government spending. More honestly, they are protesting against their taxes. This could be admirable if they had been protesting during the Bush administration. Perhaps they weren't able to do the math and realize just how much deficit spending was really occurring because Bush wasn't including the wars in the Middle East as part of the budget (like Obama did, greatly increasing the declared budget deficit). Perhaps they don't understand that their share of the tax burden went up during the Bush administration and is going down during the Obama administration (we can assume that the vast majority of the protesters are not in the top 5% of wage earners).
It seems that the bank/Wall Street bailout was the trigger that sent most of these people into the streets. That's understandable. Unfortunately, most of that was done while Bush was still in power, yet they want to blame Obama for it.
Actually, there is a contingent within the Tea Party movement that has been protesting taxes for years. They are the so-called "Fair Tax" supporters. This is another one of those deceptively named programs from the Bush era (like the "Clear Skies Initiative" or the "Healthy Forests Initiative") that replaces the income tax with a national sales tax. What's interesting about this is that implementing this would increase deficit spending, something they purport to be against. The only hedge against that would be to increase the percentage rate, causing the taxes of the people supporting this to pay more in taxes than they are now. The other kicker? It would apply to all goods and services, including health care expenses. Yet these are the same people campaigning against health care reform, and spreading myths that the reform will result in health care benefits being taxed.
The Tenthers are the folks at the protests most likely to be carrying the "racially insensitive" (or outright offensive) signs. They are the "states rights" folks, and we all know what "states rights" is code for: It started with slavery and the Civil War. They want the big hand of Big Government out of their lives. Presumably they are also NRA members and carry their guns to town hall meetings. Are they the same people that carry signs saying "Government stay out of my Medicare"?
One can only assume...
Finally, the Birthers are the wackiest of the bunch. They are the ones that - despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary - still believe that Obama is not a U.S. citizen. You would think this to be a tiny minority at this point, but sadly that is not the case. The Birther crown currently worn by attorney Orly Taitz is being usurped by a "Christian" organization which just released an infomercial pushing the Birther meme. It's being shown in red states, and the "born-again Christian" (cum convicted Wall Street insider trader) is asking for money, so he may not really be a True Believer when it comes to the Birther movement.
Sadly though, 42% of Republicans believe that Obama was not born a U.S. citizen. Considering that a lot of the Birthers, Tenthers, and Teabaggers consider themselves to be "Independent" or "Libertarian", this is a HUGE chunk of Republicans falling for this absurd fallacy. It's a pretty sad statement on what was once a respectable party.
What will be interesting is to see which of these movements fades away, which gather steam, and whether new subgroups will emerge. Regardless, we can safely assume they will be based on the same prejudices, selfishness, and inability to face the reality that they are the powerless minority that defines the members of these groups.
The Teabaggers (or as they normally call themselves: the Tea Party "Patriots") are protesting against government spending. More honestly, they are protesting against their taxes. This could be admirable if they had been protesting during the Bush administration. Perhaps they weren't able to do the math and realize just how much deficit spending was really occurring because Bush wasn't including the wars in the Middle East as part of the budget (like Obama did, greatly increasing the declared budget deficit). Perhaps they don't understand that their share of the tax burden went up during the Bush administration and is going down during the Obama administration (we can assume that the vast majority of the protesters are not in the top 5% of wage earners).
It seems that the bank/Wall Street bailout was the trigger that sent most of these people into the streets. That's understandable. Unfortunately, most of that was done while Bush was still in power, yet they want to blame Obama for it.
Actually, there is a contingent within the Tea Party movement that has been protesting taxes for years. They are the so-called "Fair Tax" supporters. This is another one of those deceptively named programs from the Bush era (like the "Clear Skies Initiative" or the "Healthy Forests Initiative") that replaces the income tax with a national sales tax. What's interesting about this is that implementing this would increase deficit spending, something they purport to be against. The only hedge against that would be to increase the percentage rate, causing the taxes of the people supporting this to pay more in taxes than they are now. The other kicker? It would apply to all goods and services, including health care expenses. Yet these are the same people campaigning against health care reform, and spreading myths that the reform will result in health care benefits being taxed.
The Tenthers are the folks at the protests most likely to be carrying the "racially insensitive" (or outright offensive) signs. They are the "states rights" folks, and we all know what "states rights" is code for: It started with slavery and the Civil War. They want the big hand of Big Government out of their lives. Presumably they are also NRA members and carry their guns to town hall meetings. Are they the same people that carry signs saying "Government stay out of my Medicare"?
One can only assume...Finally, the Birthers are the wackiest of the bunch. They are the ones that - despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary - still believe that Obama is not a U.S. citizen. You would think this to be a tiny minority at this point, but sadly that is not the case. The Birther crown currently worn by attorney Orly Taitz is being usurped by a "Christian" organization which just released an infomercial pushing the Birther meme. It's being shown in red states, and the "born-again Christian" (cum convicted Wall Street insider trader) is asking for money, so he may not really be a True Believer when it comes to the Birther movement.
Sadly though, 42% of Republicans believe that Obama was not born a U.S. citizen. Considering that a lot of the Birthers, Tenthers, and Teabaggers consider themselves to be "Independent" or "Libertarian", this is a HUGE chunk of Republicans falling for this absurd fallacy. It's a pretty sad statement on what was once a respectable party.
What will be interesting is to see which of these movements fades away, which gather steam, and whether new subgroups will emerge. Regardless, we can safely assume they will be based on the same prejudices, selfishness, and inability to face the reality that they are the powerless minority that defines the members of these groups.
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Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 12:59:14
trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 12:59:14
Given the percentages that you're stating here, BobR, do we really refer to them as the "Lunatic Fringe"?
A lot of this is another symptom of the "dumbing down" of America. Just plain ignorance.
A lot of this is another symptom of the "dumbing down" of America. Just plain ignorance.
Comment by 
Random on 09/30/2009 13:07:25
the problem with the "dumbing down" of America theory is it makes the assumption the states haven't always been like this. There has always been a large group of idiots. Only with the last two decades has it been possible to really see these people, with Cable and the internet. And the need to pander to these people has grown.
So it's not so much "dumping down" as a HD has been introduced to our viewing of the U.S. and it ain't pretty.
Random on 09/30/2009 13:07:25
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Given the percentages that you're stating here, BobR, do we really refer to them as the "Lunatic Fringe"?
A lot of this is another symptom of the "dumbing down" of America. Just plain ignorance.
the problem with the "dumbing down" of America theory is it makes the assumption the states haven't always been like this. There has always been a large group of idiots. Only with the last two decades has it been possible to really see these people, with Cable and the internet. And the need to pander to these people has grown.
So it's not so much "dumping down" as a HD has been introduced to our viewing of the U.S. and it ain't pretty.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 09/30/2009 13:09:48
wickedpam on 09/30/2009 13:09:48
Morning 
Thanks for drawing up the diagram of crazies Bobber, I aways believed they swam in the same bowl of jello but I see now that some of them are the fruit and some are the nuts suspended in that jello
Thanks for drawing up the diagram of crazies Bobber, I aways believed they swam in the same bowl of jello but I see now that some of them are the fruit and some are the nuts suspended in that jello
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 09/30/2009 13:19:14
velveeta jones on 09/30/2009 13:19:14
Morning all.
Can we start our own crazy train crowd? The Fairthers? The Pro-Americanthers? I dunno. I got nuthin this morning.
Can we start our own crazy train crowd? The Fairthers? The Pro-Americanthers? I dunno. I got nuthin this morning.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 09/30/2009 13:29:15
Scoopster on 09/30/2009 13:29:15
Mornin' everyone! 
Feelin' good this morning, I must say!
Feelin' good this morning, I must say!
Comment by 
Raine on 09/30/2009 13:33:37
Raine on 09/30/2009 13:33:37
Good Morning! I like where Ms. Jones is going.. Perhaps the Fairbagbirthers?
Comment by Scoopster on 09/30/2009 13:36:53
Let's just call them THE ARISTOCRATS!
Scoopster on 09/30/2009 13:36:53
Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning all.
Can we start our own crazy train crowd? The Fairthers? The Pro-Americanthers? I dunno. I got nuthin this morning.
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning! I like where Ms. Jones is going.. Perhaps the Fairbagbirthers?
Let's just call them THE ARISTOCRATS!
Comment by 
BobR on 09/30/2009 13:37:47
BobR on 09/30/2009 13:37:47
Quote by wickedpam:
Morning
Thanks for drawing up the diagram of crazies Bobber, I aways believed they swam in the same bowl of jello but I see now that some of them are the fruit and some are the nuts suspended in that jello
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 13:52:14
Raine on 09/30/2009 13:52:14
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/30/2009 13:55:03
Bravo Scoop!!
velveeta jones on 09/30/2009 13:55:03
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning all.
Can we start our own crazy train crowd? The Fairthers? The Pro-Americanthers? I dunno. I got nuthin this morning.
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning! I like where Ms. Jones is going.. Perhaps the Fairbagbirthers?
Let's just call them THE ARISTOCRATS!
Bravo Scoop!!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 13:55:12
trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 13:55:12
As I mentioned last night, it looks as though "Stephanie's" Facebook page (not the fan page) has been removed.
Actually I'm surprised that it was allowed to be in the first place as it wasn't Stephanie and it looked like it she didn't have a thing to do with it. So did Facebook take it down on its own, or did someone make an issue of it?
Anyway, that's 2/3 of my show "friends" gone. For whatever reason ProducerChris disappeared a few weeks ago, now "Stephanie". That leaves Rebekah. At least we know that's her.....I think.....
Actually I'm surprised that it was allowed to be in the first place as it wasn't Stephanie and it looked like it she didn't have a thing to do with it. So did Facebook take it down on its own, or did someone make an issue of it?
Anyway, that's 2/3 of my show "friends" gone. For whatever reason ProducerChris disappeared a few weeks ago, now "Stephanie". That leaves Rebekah. At least we know that's her.....I think.....
Comment by BobR on 09/30/2009 13:58:08
??
Chris still has a facecrack page...
BobR on 09/30/2009 13:58:08
Quote by trojanrabbit:
As I mentioned last night, it looks as though "Stephanie's" Facebook page (not the fan page) has been removed.
Actually I'm surprised that it was allowed to be in the first place as it wasn't Stephanie and it looked like it she didn't have a thing to do with it. So did Facebook take it down on its own, or did someone make an issue of it?
Anyway, that's 2/3 of my show "friends" gone. For whatever reason ProducerChris disappeared a few weeks ago, now "Stephanie". That leaves Rebekah. At least we know that's her.....I think.....
??
Chris still has a facecrack page...
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 13:58:24
Interesting that the article waits until the 2nd to last paragraph to mention that he's also faces charges of sexually assaulting 3 girls. But the cow story would have more legs I guess.
trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 13:58:24
Quote by Raine:Quote by BobR:
Really??
seriously - WTF???
Disgusting. Just Disgusting.
Interesting that the article waits until the 2nd to last paragraph to mention that he's also faces charges of sexually assaulting 3 girls. But the cow story would have more legs I guess.
Comment by velveeta jones on 09/30/2009 13:58:47
Oh. My. God.
Just fine the effing cop for something and move on. Or, better yet, make beastiality illegal. Sheesh.
velveeta jones on 09/30/2009 13:58:47
Quote by BobR:
Really??
seriously - WTF???
Oh. My. God.
Just fine the effing cop for something and move on. Or, better yet, make beastiality illegal. Sheesh.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 13:59:26
I know that.
But for some reason I am no longer his friend.
trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 13:59:26
Quote by BobR:Quote by trojanrabbit:
As I mentioned last night, it looks as though "Stephanie's" Facebook page (not the fan page) has been removed.
Actually I'm surprised that it was allowed to be in the first place as it wasn't Stephanie and it looked like it she didn't have a thing to do with it. So did Facebook take it down on its own, or did someone make an issue of it?
Anyway, that's 2/3 of my show "friends" gone. For whatever reason ProducerChris disappeared a few weeks ago, now "Stephanie". That leaves Rebekah. At least we know that's her.....I think.....
??
Chris still has a facecrack page...
I know that.
But for some reason I am no longer his friend.
Comment by Random on 09/30/2009 14:00:01
Random on 09/30/2009 14:00:01
Comment by BobR on 09/30/2009 14:00:41
BobR on 09/30/2009 14:00:41
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning all.
Can we start our own crazy train crowd? The Fairthers? The Pro-Americanthers? I dunno. I got nuthin this morning.
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning! I like where Ms. Jones is going.. Perhaps the Fairbagbirthers?
Let's just call them THE ARISTOCRATS!
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 14:08:00
Raine on 09/30/2009 14:08:00
Uhm -- get this shite about Bill Keller and his little Birther Bullshite. Keep reading to the foundation type....
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 14:11:07
Well played!!
Raine on 09/30/2009 14:11:07
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning all.
Can we start our own crazy train crowd? The Fairthers? The Pro-Americanthers? I dunno. I got nuthin this morning.
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning! I like where Ms. Jones is going.. Perhaps the Fairbagbirthers?
Let's just call them THE ARISTOCRATS!
Comment by BobR on 09/30/2009 14:12:06
BobR on 09/30/2009 14:12:06
63% of Americans are willing to fund health care reform through higher taxes.
Put that in your sock and smoke it, Republicans and DINOs.
Put that in your sock and smoke it, Republicans and DINOs.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 14:37:48
Raine on 09/30/2009 14:37:48
Comment by Random on 09/30/2009 14:44:33
Considering the law is in place to prevent people from just taking care of kids in poor environments. It's extreme in that it shouldn't matter if a kid is in a place daily for an hour or so, since most libraries are probably not licensed daycare facilities and have kids in them for more than 14 weeks. (note, being optimistic on the library bit)
Good law, stupid implementation.
Random on 09/30/2009 14:44:33
Quote by Raine:
State to Mom: Stop babysitting kids
What is wrong in this country? What the hell!
Considering the law is in place to prevent people from just taking care of kids in poor environments. It's extreme in that it shouldn't matter if a kid is in a place daily for an hour or so, since most libraries are probably not licensed daycare facilities and have kids in them for more than 14 weeks. (note, being optimistic on the library bit)
Good law, stupid implementation.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 15:09:45
Raine on 09/30/2009 15:09:45
Comment by Random on 09/30/2009 15:11:11
Random on 09/30/2009 15:11:11
Newsmax has removed the seditious article from their website.
Comment by Random on 09/30/2009 15:13:56
Random is soooo going to be a certified Instructor.
Random on 09/30/2009 15:13:56
Random is soooo going to be a certified Instructor.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 15:15:33
Hmmm. Why bother? Do they think that if it disappears it never happened?
If we were talking about a place with journalistic integrity (does one even exist any more?) it never would have been published.
trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 15:15:33
Quote by Random:
Newsmax has removed the seditious article from their website.
Hmmm. Why bother? Do they think that if it disappears it never happened?
If we were talking about a place with journalistic integrity (does one even exist any more?) it never would have been published.
Comment by Random on 09/30/2009 15:18:09
I like the fact the guy wants to save America by making it a military dictatorship.
Random on 09/30/2009 15:18:09
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Random:
Newsmax has removed the seditious article from their website.
Hmmm. Why bother? Do they think that if it disappears it never happened?
If we were talking about a place with journalistic integrity (does one even exist any more?) it never would have been published.
I like the fact the guy wants to save America by making it a military dictatorship.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 15:19:00
Raine on 09/30/2009 15:19:00
From CNN: GOP Rep. Tom Price will introduce a resolution today "disapproving" of Alan Grayson's "die quickly" remarks -- it is in reference to this.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 15:20:12
I'd like to know where that clown was from 2001-2008.
trojanrabbit on 09/30/2009 15:20:12
Quote by Random:Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Random:
Newsmax has removed the seditious article from their website.
Hmmm. Why bother? Do they think that if it disappears it never happened?
If we were talking about a place with journalistic integrity (does one even exist any more?) it never would have been published.
I like the fact the guy wants to save America by making it a military dictatorship.
I'd like to know where that clown was from 2001-2008.
Comment by Random on 09/30/2009 15:38:50
Easy, chomping at the bit to bomb people.
Random on 09/30/2009 15:38:50
Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Random:Quote by trojanrabbit:Quote by Random:
Newsmax has removed the seditious article from their website.
Hmmm. Why bother? Do they think that if it disappears it never happened?
If we were talking about a place with journalistic integrity (does one even exist any more?) it never would have been published.
I like the fact the guy wants to save America by making it a military dictatorship.
I'd like to know where that clown was from 2001-2008.
Easy, chomping at the bit to bomb people.
Comment by 
livingonli on 09/30/2009 15:43:31
livingonli on 09/30/2009 15:43:31
Good morning everyone.
On the laptop right now but until I get my cable hooked up here I have to deal with the slower speeds that I have through Verizon wireless. At least I can listed listen to the last hour of Momma on local radio.
On the laptop right now but until I get my cable hooked up here I have to deal with the slower speeds that I have through Verizon wireless. At least I can listed listen to the last hour of Momma on local radio.
Comment by livingonli on 09/30/2009 15:46:49
livingonli on 09/30/2009 15:46:49
Last night I listened to a little Mike Malloy and he talked about the Newsmax piece and he compared it to the film Seven Days in May.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 15:50:20
Raine on 09/30/2009 15:50:20
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 15:53:59
Raine on 09/30/2009 15:53:59
Reid has cancelled the Senate's Columbus Day recess to focus on healthcare reform during the week of Oct. 12.
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 15:57:40
Is there no end to the dickishness of the Republican party? Really they don't think that holding up "bills that were allowed to be introduced" or yelling "you lie" is not worse that Grayson pointing out in a satiric fashion that there is no real Republican plan for health care reform.
Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 15:57:40
Quote by Raine:
From CNN: GOP Rep. Tom Price will introduce a resolution today "disapproving" of Alan Grayson's "die quickly" remarks -- it is in reference to this.
Is there no end to the dickishness of the Republican party? Really they don't think that holding up "bills that were allowed to be introduced" or yelling "you lie" is not worse that Grayson pointing out in a satiric fashion that there is no real Republican plan for health care reform.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 15:59:05
The hypocrisy hurts.
Raine on 09/30/2009 15:59:05
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
From CNN: GOP Rep. Tom Price will introduce a resolution today "disapproving" of Alan Grayson's "die quickly" remarks -- it is in reference to this.
Is there no end to the dickishness of the Republican party? Really they don't think that holding up "bills that were allowed to be introduced" or yelling "you lie" is not worse that Grayson pointing out in a satiric fashion that there is no real Republican plan for health care reform.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 16:00:42
Agreed.
Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 16:00:42
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
State to Mom: Stop babysitting kids
What is wrong in this country? What the hell!
Considering the law is in place to prevent people from just taking care of kids in poor environments. It's extreme in that it shouldn't matter if a kid is in a place daily for an hour or so, since most libraries are probably not licensed daycare facilities and have kids in them for more than 14 weeks. (note, being optimistic on the library bit)
Good law, stupid implementation.
Agreed.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/30/2009 16:01:08
Actually Grayson's point was off - he should have said the Republicans' backup health care plan is for people to DIE POOR, HOMELESS AND HUNGRY BECAUSE THE INSURANCE COMPANY REFUSED TO PAY THEIR MEDICAL BILLS.
Scoopster on 09/30/2009 16:01:08
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Raine:
From CNN: GOP Rep. Tom Price will introduce a resolution today "disapproving" of Alan Grayson's "die quickly" remarks -- it is in reference to this.
Is there no end to the dickishness of the Republican party? Really they don't think that holding up "bills that were allowed to be introduced" or yelling "you lie" is not worse that Grayson pointing out in a satiric fashion that there is no real Republican plan for health care reform.
Actually Grayson's point was off - he should have said the Republicans' backup health care plan is for people to DIE POOR, HOMELESS AND HUNGRY BECAUSE THE INSURANCE COMPANY REFUSED TO PAY THEIR MEDICAL BILLS.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 16:06:52
What another state with no bestiality law? Florida now has one thanks to the Cow Raper here.
Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 16:06:52
Quote by BobR:
Really??
seriously - WTF???
What another state with no bestiality law? Florida now has one thanks to the Cow Raper here.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 16:09:18
:spit: :rofl: Well done, Sir!
BTW funniest bit in said documentary is Sarah Silverman.
Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 16:09:18
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by velveeta jones:
Morning all.
Can we start our own crazy train crowd? The Fairthers? The Pro-Americanthers? I dunno. I got nuthin this morning.
Quote by Raine:
Good Morning! I like where Ms. Jones is going.. Perhaps the Fairbagbirthers?
Let's just call them THE ARISTOCRATS!
:spit:
:rofl: Well done, Sir! BTW funniest bit in said documentary is Sarah Silverman.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 16:13:57
If it wasn't for Chris' facecrack, I wouldn't have know Alia Shawkat is on board for the "Arrested Development" movie.
Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 16:13:57
Quote by BobR:Quote by trojanrabbit:
As I mentioned last night, it looks as though "Stephanie's" Facebook page (not the fan page) has been removed.
Actually I'm surprised that it was allowed to be in the first place as it wasn't Stephanie and it looked like it she didn't have a thing to do with it. So did Facebook take it down on its own, or did someone make an issue of it?
Anyway, that's 2/3 of my show "friends" gone. For whatever reason ProducerChris disappeared a few weeks ago, now "Stephanie". That leaves Rebekah. At least we know that's her.....I think.....
??
Chris still has a facecrack page...
If it wasn't for Chris' facecrack, I wouldn't have know Alia Shawkat is on board for the "Arrested Development" movie.
Comment by Random on 09/30/2009 16:34:36
Random on 09/30/2009 16:34:36
Random's sad the seditious article is gone...
Even sadder when it wasn't on Olberman's show last night (haven't looked at Maddow yet)
Hope it shows up tonight.
Also surprised I haven't seen the Facebook poll show up.
Even sadder when it wasn't on Olberman's show last night (haven't looked at Maddow yet)
Hope it shows up tonight.
Also surprised I haven't seen the Facebook poll show up.
Comment by 
clintster on 09/30/2009 16:38:11
Funny as this?
clintster on 09/30/2009 16:38:11
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Let's just call them THE ARISTOCRATS!
:spit:
BTW funniest bit in said documentary is Sarah Silverman.
Funny as this?
Comment by MavericksHMB on 09/30/2009 17:16:03
Excellent analysis, Bob! Will repost to FB.
My prediction is that we'll see offshoots from the existing crazy groups and that they'll become more offensive and much more lunatic. I hope I'm wrong.
My prediction is that we'll see offshoots from the existing crazy groups and that they'll become more offensive and much more lunatic. I hope I'm wrong.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 18:03:03
Don't you have to be on facebook to see the polls? 
Raine on 09/30/2009 18:03:03
Quote by Random:
Random's sad the seditious article is gone...
Even sadder when it wasn't on Olberman's show last night (haven't looked at Maddow yet)
Hope it shows up tonight.
Also surprised I haven't seen the Facebook poll show up.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 18:05:02
MAV!!!
I hope you are wrong as well... Patrick Kennedy has issued a warning regarding the threat of political Violence.
Raine on 09/30/2009 18:05:02
Quote by MavericksHMB:
Excellent analysis, Bob! Will repost to FB.
My prediction is that we'll see offshoots from the existing crazy groups and that they'll become more offensive and much more lunatic. I hope I'm wrong.
MAV!!!
I hope you are wrong as well... Patrick Kennedy has issued a warning regarding the threat of political Violence.
Comment by Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 18:07:35
Far funnier. Because it went into the uncomfortable zone that Silverman exploits so well by simply being so cute and innocent.
Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 18:07:35
Quote by clintster:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Scoopster:
Let's just call them THE ARISTOCRATS!
:spit:
BTW funniest bit in said documentary is Sarah Silverman.
Funny as this?
Far funnier. Because it went into the uncomfortable zone that Silverman exploits so well by simply being so cute and innocent.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 18:23:41
Raine on 09/30/2009 18:23:41
I must say I am enjoying Carl and Christine filling in for Thom.
Comment by Scoopster on 09/30/2009 18:40:46
Scoopster on 09/30/2009 18:40:46
Welcome back to el casa blogiablo, Mav!
Comment by 
TriSec on 09/30/2009 19:05:19
TriSec on 09/30/2009 19:05:19
Howdy folks. Back from an early shift at the store. I've been learning the "Active" department. (Re: camping equipment. About 85% of my personal gear comes out of the store to begin with. This is going to be a stretch. )
Birthers, in particular, I group with the "Chappaquiddick" faction. As soon as the issue is raised, my opinion of them is permanently and irrevocably sealed.
Dumber than a box full of hair. About as sharp as a pound of wet leather. Keen as a bowling ball.
)Birthers, in particular, I group with the "Chappaquiddick" faction. As soon as the issue is raised, my opinion of them is permanently and irrevocably sealed.
Dumber than a box full of hair. About as sharp as a pound of wet leather. Keen as a bowling ball.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 19:08:58
Raine on 09/30/2009 19:08:58
Hey Tri! Nice to see you!
Comment by Random on 09/30/2009 19:09:11
dear lord no.
Random on 09/30/2009 19:09:11
Quote by Raine:Don't you have to be on facebook to see the polls?Quote by Random:
Random's sad the seditious article is gone...
Even sadder when it wasn't on Olberman's show last night (haven't looked at Maddow yet)
Hope it shows up tonight.
Also surprised I haven't seen the Facebook poll show up.
dear lord no.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 19:52:17
Raine on 09/30/2009 19:52:17
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Comment by Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 19:55:35
:straight faced for maximum comedic effect: It could be a representation of St Andrew.
Mondobubba on 09/30/2009 19:55:35
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:straight faced for maximum comedic effect: It could be a representation of St Andrew.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 20:13:05
Raine on 09/30/2009 20:13:05
Randi has a lot more faith in Max Baucus than I do.
Comment by Random on 09/30/2009 20:17:29
There's a Mary Magdalene joke in there, I know it.
Random on 09/30/2009 20:17:29
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There's a Mary Magdalene joke in there, I know it.
Comment by livingonli on 09/30/2009 20:29:47
livingonli on 09/30/2009 20:29:47
Hey, Tri and Maves. Good to see everyone here.
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 20:53:21
Raine on 09/30/2009 20:53:21
you guys are going to love this. Especially you Random
The Wikipedia Knowledge Dump
-- WikiDumper: The Official Appreciation Page for the Best of the Wikipedia Rejects. “One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.”
The Wikipedia Knowledge Dump
-- WikiDumper: The Official Appreciation Page for the Best of the Wikipedia Rejects. “One man’s trash is another man’s treasure.”
Comment by Raine on 09/30/2009 20:55:43
Raine on 09/30/2009 20:55:43
Randi is way behind me regarding the Peasant insurance... 
I would love to do research for her.
I would love to do research for her.