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Georgia was stolen. AKA: you can't be a hero if your party is not heroic.
Author: Raine
Date: 07/31/2008 09:30:22
I am not kidding here. If you are on a team that does great things, then yes! celebrate! Be a cheerleader! But you can't be the hero of a party that does unheroic things. That is not how sports are played... And politics - they are one and the same, as some in the media have said. The problem is: the results of politics are FAR more critical. So - let's begin....
Let's talk about Heroes; let's talk about politics.
Let's talk about how the GOP treats our heroes for a moment. For just a brief moment, let's talk about Max Cleland. In case you did not know, he is a Vietnam vet...He is the honorable and former Senator from the state of Georgia. He did not win re-election and Saxby Chambiss assumed his seat. Basically, he was *swifboated*. The following ad is largely attributed to his *failure* to win his election campaign:
This was the ad that his opponent, Saxby Chambliss ran a few weeks before the election. People keep saying that this was the ad that did him in... I do not agree. Not anymore. This election was stolen. Max--- Mr. Cleland... was swiftboated before the term even existed. No kidding.
We are now finding out that what was a bit suspicious to many Georgians (as well as Thom Hartmann, Greg Palast, and Bev Harris... to name a few) is pretty damn true. Republicans stole that election. Strong charges, I know...
From the Populist in 2003:
The past fews days have opened up a serious story going on down here in Georgia... it seems as tho the '02 elections REALLY were stolen. A few mentions have been made on our Message Board, but This Story blew me way. Seems as tho the Secretary of State at the time (the same Secretary of State bolded above) knew what was going on. there is more at the link, but - in case you are wondering about that patch: it exists. Bev Harris at Black Box Voting has it. That patch exists, and it isn't some urban myth. It was used in Fulton and Dekalb Counties, 2 HEAVILY Democratic areas in Georgia. That was it, those 2 counties. the heaviest Democratic counties in the state.
Back to Max... Mr. Cleland --- Please keep in mind that Mr. Cleland is not just a Vet... he is a REAL hero. the following is from a man who served with him...
Mr. Cleland lost both legs and his arm. In 2002, he lost his senate seat -- I will say again--- he did not lose -- it was stolen, This is a story about how Republicans treat Vets.This is a story about how Saxby Chambliss, as a representative of the Republican party treats our veterans, and our civil servants. This is how they treat our TRUE heroes. This is a story of power and control and the rest be damned.--- according to the GOP --- Saxby questoned Mr. Cleland's service. Did you know that Saxby NEVER SERVED? The dude isn't even from Georgia... Check THIS out... Good to know you care McCain.
Max Cleland did not lose because of a political ad. I propose the media would like you to believe that. To this day... more than 6 years later, they would like you to believe that an ad can make people swing like that...(go back, take a look at those numbers) People are not stupid. Max Cleland didn't lose... his seat in the senate was stolen. The GOP STOLE from a War Hero. THAT is how they treat Vets. They steal from them, and you wonder why John McCain didn't vote for the GI bill. He doesn't consider himself a vet anymore.. He just uses his status as a political toy to dangle to people who think this makes him a hero. He is using those very patriotic Americans. In reality, he has become a Karl Rove Republican, just like Saxby (who, actually started out that way from the gate, thanks to the *patch* and Diebold. Oh btw - he is up for re-election...)
We MUST be vigilant becuase Georgia '02 was a test run. A "beta theft" as it were... Ohio in '04 further pushed the ultimate plan along. We know how they treated another vet (John Kerry) in that election. It would be funny if it wasn't so consequential that John McCain wants his service to not be questioned... he only wants us all to honor it... Well, I don't. I just don't. I respect his service... but I do not honour it. Not when the republicans - his fellow party members - treated Max Cleland the way that they did, not when I know they stole that election. Honorable people don't do that. Honorable people don't treat people that way. And John McCain is not being honorable.
John McCain never talks about what happened to his fellow Vietnam vet, Max Cleland, because John KNOWS that his party will try AGAIN to steal the election.
What he doesn't know is that if we, collectilvely, get out the vote in the massive numbers that we are seeing with the support of the Obama campain no Republican can ever steal our votes again. That is the greatest gift we can give to a man that gave 3 limbs for our country. It is time to do something really heroic; it is time to vote for our true heroes, the ones who truly sacrificed for all of us. It doesn't matter if they served in the military or not, it matters if they fought, lived, died for this country we call the United States of America.
Do it for Max Cleland. Do it for everyone who lived honorably, and truthfully and nobly. Get the vote out. Make voting as viral as a youtube video... be a hero. Ads don't steal elections - the GOP does.
No more stolen elections. This must NEVER happen again.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
Let's talk about Heroes; let's talk about politics.
Let's talk about how the GOP treats our heroes for a moment. For just a brief moment, let's talk about Max Cleland. In case you did not know, he is a Vietnam vet...He is the honorable and former Senator from the state of Georgia. He did not win re-election and Saxby Chambiss assumed his seat. Basically, he was *swifboated*. The following ad is largely attributed to his *failure* to win his election campaign:
This was the ad that his opponent, Saxby Chambliss ran a few weeks before the election. People keep saying that this was the ad that did him in... I do not agree. Not anymore. This election was stolen. Max--- Mr. Cleland... was swiftboated before the term even existed. No kidding.
We are now finding out that what was a bit suspicious to many Georgians (as well as Thom Hartmann, Greg Palast, and Bev Harris... to name a few) is pretty damn true. Republicans stole that election. Strong charges, I know...
From the Populist in 2003:
Opinion polls in Georgia on the eve of the 2002 general election showed Democratic incumbent Gov. Roy Barnes leading by 9-11 points and Sen. Max Cleland ahead of his Republican challenger by 2-5 points, so it was a shock on election night when the returns showed Barnes losing to Republican Sonny Perdue, 46 to 51 percent, a swing of as much as 16 points from the last opinion polls, and Cleland losing to Saxby Chambliss by 46 to 53 percent, a last-minute swing of 9-12 points. Pundits credited a surge of "angry white men" punishing Barnes for removing the Confederate symbol from the state flag, but the London Independent noted in a special investigative report on Oct. 14 that a demographic breakdown published by the Georgia Secretary of State showed no such surge of white men; the only subgroup showing a modest increase in turnout was black women.
There were also big, puzzling swings in different parts of the state, the Independent noted. In 58 counties, the vote was broadly in line with the primary election. In 27 counties in Republican-dominated north Georgia, however, Cleland unaccountably scored 14 points higher than he had in the primaries. And in 74 counties in the Democrat south, Saxby Chambliss garnered a whopping 22 points more for the Republicans than the party as a whole had won less than three months earlier.
The big difference was that in November 2002 Georgia was the first state in the country to conduct an election entirely with touchscreen voting machines, after lavishing $54 million on a new system that promised to deliver the most secure, most up-to-date, most voter-friendly election in the nation's history. The machines, however, were found to be poorly programmed, full of security holes and prone to tampering. With thousands of similar machines from different companies being introduced at high speed across the country, Andrew Gumbel wrote in the Independent, "computer voting may, in fact, be US democracy's own 21st-century nightmare."
The past fews days have opened up a serious story going on down here in Georgia... it seems as tho the '02 elections REALLY were stolen. A few mentions have been made on our Message Board, but This Story blew me way. Seems as tho the Secretary of State at the time (the same Secretary of State bolded above) knew what was going on.
Georgia Secretary of State Cathy Cox’s office faxed documents to the then-president of Diebold Election Systems Bob Urosevich listing a series of issues that occurred shortly before the November 2002 election.
Documents provided to RAW STORY by a whistleblower close to Cox’s office show that one of the key problems Georgia officials were trying to resolve was related to an unauthorized patch installed on machines prior to the election.
In one document, Cox’s office asked Urosevich for confirmation that a “0808 patch was applied to all systems; confirmation that the patch was not grounds for requiring the system to be recertified at national and state level; as well as verifiable analysis of the overall impact of the patch to the voting system”
Back to Max... Mr. Cleland --- Please keep in mind that Mr. Cleland is not just a Vet... he is a REAL hero. the following is from a man who served with him...
The 2nd of the 12th Cavalry was engaged in a combat operation at the time of this incident. Max Cleland was with the Battalion Forward Command Post in heavy combat involving the attack of the 1st Cavalry Division up the valley to relieve the Marines who were besieged and surrounded at the Khe Shan Firebase. The whole surrounding area was an active combat zone (some might call the entire country of Vietnam a combat zone). (Is Iraq a combat zone?) Max, the Battalion Signal Officer, was engaged in a combat mission I personally ordered to increase the effectiveness of communications between the battalion combat forward and rear support elements: e.g. Erect a radio relay antenna on a mountain top. By the way, at one point the battalion rear elements came under enemy artillery fire so everyone was in harms way.
As they were getting off the helicopter, Max saw the grenade on the ground and he instinctively went for it. Soldiers in combat don't leave grenades lying around on the ground. Later, in the hospital, he said he thought it was his own but I doubt the concept of "ownership" went through his mind in the split seconds involved in reaching for the grenade. Nearly two decades later another soldier came forward and admitted it was actually his grenade. Does ownership of the grenade really matter? It does not.
Maury Cralle'
Battalion Executive Officer
2d/12th Cavalry Battalion
1st Air Cavalry Division
During the assault on Khe Shan
Mr. Cleland lost both legs and his arm. In 2002, he lost his senate seat -- I will say again--- he did not lose -- it was stolen, This is a story about how Republicans treat Vets.This is a story about how Saxby Chambliss, as a representative of the Republican party treats our veterans, and our civil servants. This is how they treat our TRUE heroes. This is a story of power and control and the rest be damned.--- according to the GOP --- Saxby questoned Mr. Cleland's service. Did you know that Saxby NEVER SERVED? The dude isn't even from Georgia... Check THIS out...
John McCain of Arizona said of one ad, "It's worse than disgraceful, it's reprehensible;" Republican Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska said the ads were "beyond offensive to me."
Max Cleland did not lose because of a political ad. I propose the media would like you to believe that. To this day... more than 6 years later, they would like you to believe that an ad can make people swing like that...(go back, take a look at those numbers) People are not stupid. Max Cleland didn't lose... his seat in the senate was stolen. The GOP STOLE from a War Hero. THAT is how they treat Vets. They steal from them, and you wonder why John McCain didn't vote for the GI bill. He doesn't consider himself a vet anymore.. He just uses his status as a political toy to dangle to people who think this makes him a hero. He is using those very patriotic Americans. In reality, he has become a Karl Rove Republican, just like Saxby (who, actually started out that way from the gate, thanks to the *patch* and Diebold. Oh btw - he is up for re-election...)
We MUST be vigilant becuase Georgia '02 was a test run. A "beta theft" as it were... Ohio in '04 further pushed the ultimate plan along. We know how they treated another vet (John Kerry) in that election. It would be funny if it wasn't so consequential that John McCain wants his service to not be questioned... he only wants us all to honor it... Well, I don't. I just don't. I respect his service... but I do not honour it. Not when the republicans - his fellow party members - treated Max Cleland the way that they did, not when I know they stole that election. Honorable people don't do that. Honorable people don't treat people that way. And John McCain is not being honorable.
John McCain never talks about what happened to his fellow Vietnam vet, Max Cleland, because John KNOWS that his party will try AGAIN to steal the election.
What he doesn't know is that if we, collectilvely, get out the vote in the massive numbers that we are seeing with the support of the Obama campain no Republican can ever steal our votes again. That is the greatest gift we can give to a man that gave 3 limbs for our country. It is time to do something really heroic; it is time to vote for our true heroes, the ones who truly sacrificed for all of us. It doesn't matter if they served in the military or not, it matters if they fought, lived, died for this country we call the United States of America.
Do it for Max Cleland. Do it for everyone who lived honorably, and truthfully and nobly. Get the vote out. Make voting as viral as a youtube video... be a hero. Ads don't steal elections - the GOP does.
No more stolen elections. This must NEVER happen again.
:peace: and :heart:
Raine
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Comment by 
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 11:13:46
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 11:13:46
Having nothing to do with this entry: How do I see comments older than the ones that show?
I fell asleep early last night and want to review the older comments to see if anyone said anything to me after I dozed off, and I can't seem to figure out how to get the ones old enough that they don't show on the initial page.
I can re-order the comments to see the very OLDEST ones, but then the page size doesn't allow me to see any newer than yesterday morning.
Oh, and good morning, e-mooks and e-mamas and anyone who fits into neither category.
I fell asleep early last night and want to review the older comments to see if anyone said anything to me after I dozed off, and I can't seem to figure out how to get the ones old enough that they don't show on the initial page.
I can re-order the comments to see the very OLDEST ones, but then the page size doesn't allow me to see any newer than yesterday morning.
Oh, and good morning, e-mooks and e-mamas and anyone who fits into neither category.
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 11:40:17
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 11:40:17
UPDATE(Cue Emily Litella) Nevermind. I finally got it to pop up, which also gave me the option I needed in order to see the comments older than 50 ago. Thanks!
By the way, on a different note, whenever I click on the "Set User Options" button on the left hand side of the screen, the popup window sits for a whil and then gives the "cannot display the web page" message.
FYI.
FYI.
Comment by 
Random on 07/31/2008 11:53:29
Random on 07/31/2008 11:53:29
Good for you Liam.
Comment by 
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:10:38
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:10:38
Morning :hug:
Comment by 
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:16:23
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:16:23
Hey folks!
No assholes yet hu?
Oh wait I'm here....
No assholes yet hu?
Oh wait I'm here....
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:17:14
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:17:14
I hope there's at least one, Grumpyman, I seriously need to hit the loo.
(TMI, I know.)
(TMI, I know.)
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:20:12
Hello Liam.
We've not met nut it's nice to meet you!
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:20:12
Quote by liam1965:
I hope there's at least one, Grumpyman, I seriously need to hit the loo.
(TMI, I know.)
Hello Liam.
We've not met nut it's nice to meet you!
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:22:02
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:22:02
We've not met nut it's nice to meet you?
NUT?
I, well, resemble that remark.
NUT?
I, well, resemble that remark.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:24:29
As do i....
But the, NUT, was supposed to be BUT .....
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:24:29
Quote by liam1965:
We've not met nut it's nice to meet you?
NUT?
I, well, resemble that remark.
As do i....
But the, NUT, was supposed to be BUT .....
Comment by 
TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:25:09
TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:25:09
Morning, comrades!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:27:31
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:27:31
Grump, two days in a row! :hug:
And I don't think I've met Liam yet either - so welcome to our little corner of the world :D
And I don't think I've met Liam yet either - so welcome to our little corner of the world :D
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:28:38
TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:28:38
Say now....one of the definitions of "maverick" is thus:
an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party
So, if you're mainstream enough to possibly get elected president, you're no longer a maverick, right?
Discuss.
an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party
So, if you're mainstream enough to possibly get elected president, you're no longer a maverick, right?
Discuss.
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 12:30:03
Random on 07/31/2008 12:30:03
™
Hola group, how are my loyal subjects?
Hola group, how are my loyal subjects?
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:30:54
To Arms!
To Arms!
The Random is out!
: Paul Revere :
TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:30:54
Quote by Random:
™
Hola group, how are my loyal subjects?
To Arms!
To Arms!
The Random is out!
: Paul Revere :
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:33:07
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:33:07
Random you do know how to make an enterance
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 12:33:09
Another Discuss...because i don't know what to say about that one...
How can the Republican's piss and moan about Obama being a Celebrity, but their lord and savior (Ronald Regan) was just that?
Random on 07/31/2008 12:33:09
Quote by TriSec:
Say now....one of the definitions of "maverick" is thus:
an independent individual who does not go along with a group or party
So, if you're mainstream enough to possibly get elected president, you're no longer a maverick, right?
Discuss.
Another Discuss...because i don't know what to say about that one...
How can the Republican's piss and moan about Obama being a Celebrity, but their lord and savior (Ronald Regan) was just that?
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 12:34:27
Minutes of practice my dear ma'am, minutes of practice...
And watching more than my fair share of movies.
Random on 07/31/2008 12:34:27
Quote by wickedpam:
Random you do know how to make an enterance
Minutes of practice my dear ma'am, minutes of practice...
And watching more than my fair share of movies.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:34:27
tovarish!
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:34:27
Quote by TriSec:
Morning, comrades!
tovarish!
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:39:48
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:39:48
OK, I guess a short introduction is in order:
I'm Liam. I came from the SMS LiveBlog (well, not originally, originally I came from a zygote created by my Mom & Dad, but I digress), largely because here I can participate in the mornings, at lunch and in the evenings and not during work hours, without feeling like I missed out on anything, like fun topics or jokes or a paycheck after getting fired for lack of productivity.
I'm an Independent centrist-tending-towards-liberal but with fiscal conservative tendencies (in the real sense of the word, as in "if you stop spending and have a surplus, you can cut taxes" not in the sense of "let's see if people will buy it if we tell them cutting taxes on the rich will increase revenues").
I write really godawful humor essays on one of my blogs at http://liamhumor.blogspot.com and horribly uninformed political screeds at http://www.liamjohnson.net, and I have a book of the former that you can look at (but for heaven's sake, don't purchase!) at Amazon under the title "Cue Ball City (and other bald musings)", which I mention because my picture is on the cover, so you can see what I look like.
I have five children, two wives (well, one an ex, I'm no Romney) and three mortgages (on three houses, two are apartment buildings my wife manages).
Other than that, I smell funny, which is why I'm a better friend on line than in person.
I'm Liam. I came from the SMS LiveBlog (well, not originally, originally I came from a zygote created by my Mom & Dad, but I digress), largely because here I can participate in the mornings, at lunch and in the evenings and not during work hours, without feeling like I missed out on anything, like fun topics or jokes or a paycheck after getting fired for lack of productivity.
I'm an Independent centrist-tending-towards-liberal but with fiscal conservative tendencies (in the real sense of the word, as in "if you stop spending and have a surplus, you can cut taxes" not in the sense of "let's see if people will buy it if we tell them cutting taxes on the rich will increase revenues").
I write really godawful humor essays on one of my blogs at http://liamhumor.blogspot.com and horribly uninformed political screeds at http://www.liamjohnson.net, and I have a book of the former that you can look at (but for heaven's sake, don't purchase!) at Amazon under the title "Cue Ball City (and other bald musings)", which I mention because my picture is on the cover, so you can see what I look like.
I have five children, two wives (well, one an ex, I'm no Romney) and three mortgages (on three houses, two are apartment buildings my wife manages).
Other than that, I smell funny, which is why I'm a better friend on line than in person.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:43:43
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:43:43
Quote by wickedpam:
Grump, two days in a row! :hug:
And I don't think I've met Liam yet either - so welcome to our little corner of the world :D
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:45:46
Hey Liam love the humor (Very Python ) .
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:45:46
Quote by liam1965:
OK, I guess a short introduction is in order:
I'm Liam. I came from the SMS LiveBlog (well, not originally, originally I came from a zygote created by my Mom & Dad, but I digress), largely because here I can participate in the mornings, at lunch and in the evenings and not during work hours, without feeling like I missed out on anything, like fun topics or jokes or a paycheck after getting fired for lack of productivity.
I'm an Independent centrist-tending-towards-liberal but with fiscal conservative tendencies (in the real sense of the word, as in "if you stop spending and have a surplus, you can cut taxes" not in the sense of "let's see if people will buy it if we tell them cutting taxes on the rich will increase revenues").
I write really godawful humor essays on one of my blogs at http://liamhumor.blogspot.com and horribly uninformed political screeds at http://www.liamjohnson.net, and I have a book of the former that you can look at (but for heaven's sake, don't purchase!) at Amazon under the title "Cue Ball City (and other bald musings)", which I mention because my picture is on the cover, so you can see what I look like.
I have five children, two wives (well, one an ex, I'm no Romney) and three mortgages (on three houses, two are apartment buildings my wife manages).
Other than that, I smell funny, which is why I'm a better friend on line than in person.
Hey Liam love the humor (Very Python ) .
Comment by 
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 12:47:59
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 12:47:59
Good morning all!
Nice to see you over here Liam! (bi-posting? - scamp
)
Nice to see you over here Liam! (bi-posting? - scamp
)
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:49:44
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:49:44
And sense I'm about making new aquanteces (sp?)
Hello Random.
Hello Random.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:50:34
It's been a rather long while since we've been trolled . Raine put him in internet timeout for a week. Hope he doesn't come back.
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:50:34
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by wickedpam:
Grump, two days in a row! :hug:
And I don't think I've met Liam yet either - so welcome to our little corner of the world :D
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
It's been a rather long while since we've been trolled . Raine put him in internet timeout for a week. Hope he doesn't come back.
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:52:47
TriSec on 07/31/2008 12:52:47
Hey Liam, we've got this thread over on the message board with more introductions....
You'll need a separate registration to post there, but it can be the same as the blog...
You'll need a separate registration to post there, but it can be the same as the blog...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:53:49
Very cool Liam. Glad your here. I swear I get to know more writers online then I have in RL, I love the internet
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 12:53:49
Quote by liam1965:
OK, I guess a short introduction is in order:
I'm Liam. I came from the SMS LiveBlog (well, not originally, originally I came from a zygote created by my Mom & Dad, but I digress), largely because here I can participate in the mornings, at lunch and in the evenings and not during work hours, without feeling like I missed out on anything, like fun topics or jokes or a paycheck after getting fired for lack of productivity.
I'm an Independent centrist-tending-towards-liberal but with fiscal conservative tendencies (in the real sense of the word, as in "if you stop spending and have a surplus, you can cut taxes" not in the sense of "let's see if people will buy it if we tell them cutting taxes on the rich will increase revenues").
I write really godawful humor essays on one of my blogs at http://liamhumor.blogspot.com and horribly uninformed political screeds at http://www.liamjohnson.net, and I have a book of the former that you can look at (but for heaven's sake, don't purchase!) at Amazon under the title "Cue Ball City (and other bald musings)", which I mention because my picture is on the cover, so you can see what I look like.
I have five children, two wives (well, one an ex, I'm no Romney) and three mortgages (on three houses, two are apartment buildings my wife manages).
Other than that, I smell funny, which is why I'm a better friend on line than in person.
Very cool Liam. Glad your here. I swear I get to know more writers online then I have in RL, I love the internet
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:54:31
Oh he will, (Come back that is). In some form or another.....
Say has anyone heard from or about Bat?
He said he was "Shipping out in May" I hope all is well with him.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:54:31
Quote by wickedpam:Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by wickedpam:
Grump, two days in a row! :hug:
And I don't think I've met Liam yet either - so welcome to our little corner of the world :D
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
It's been a rather long while since we've been trolled . Raine put him in internet timeout for a week. Hope he doesn't come back.
Oh he will, (Come back that is). In some form or another.....
Say has anyone heard from or about Bat?
He said he was "Shipping out in May" I hope all is well with him.
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 12:56:07
Hello Grumpy, incase you're wondering, Yes, I am the blog diety.
™
Random on 07/31/2008 12:56:07
Quote by Grumpymann:
And sense I'm about making new aquanteces (sp?)
Hello Random.
Hello Grumpy, incase you're wondering, Yes, I am the blog diety.
™
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:57:40
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:57:40
Well, that's it for my morning participation, gotta pay attention to the office now.
See y'all at lunch or after work!
Liam.
See y'all at lunch or after work!
Liam.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:58:31
I bow in the general direction of you bloggy godishness......
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:58:31
Quote by Random:Quote by Grumpymann:
And sense I'm about making new aquanteces (sp?)
Hello Random.
Hello Grumpy, incase you're wondering, Yes, I am the blog diety.
™
I bow in the general direction of you bloggy godishness......
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:58:57
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 12:58:57
By the way, I did post something on-topic this morning (aka related to Georgia being stolen) comparing to Ohio in 2004 and wondering if we'll ever have proof there, but I got an error out of the blog when posting it, and it was long and I got frustrated and didn't reconstruct it.
But just in case anyone thinks I'm NEVER on topic, I am, the universe just conspires not to let it be seen. ;-)
But just in case anyone thinks I'm NEVER on topic, I am, the universe just conspires not to let it be seen. ;-)
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:59:54
When the inmates run the asylum
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 12:59:54
The Department of Health and Human Services is reviewing a draft regulation that would deny federal funding to any hospital, clinic, health plan or other entity that does not accommodate employees who want to opt out of participating in care that runs counter to their personal convictions, including providing birth-control pills, IUDs and the Plan B emergency contraceptive.
When the inmates run the asylum
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:04:04
capt on 07/31/2008 13:04:04
Good Morning!
Great post. The SOB's will steal this election too if they can. We can't ever (never never never) think for a pico-second these GOPhers have any honor or honesty.
We have to remember they can wiretap all phone calls, read all emails, sneak and peek without warrants, they have Diebold ES&S and all secret vote counting processes, they have all five multinational that own all cable news-o-tainment, they have fixers and push-polling, caging lists and disenfranchisement.
We are not up against a party - we are up against an election stealing machine.
We have to kill them by the numbers - we have to swamp them with the impossibility of their dreams. We have to be so big and huge and numerous that they cannot win by cheating and lying and stealing.
It is not going to be easy, they stole all that and we have to win it back fair and square because we are better than they are, we are better than they can ever be.
Great post. The SOB's will steal this election too if they can. We can't ever (never never never) think for a pico-second these GOPhers have any honor or honesty.
We have to remember they can wiretap all phone calls, read all emails, sneak and peek without warrants, they have Diebold ES&S and all secret vote counting processes, they have all five multinational that own all cable news-o-tainment, they have fixers and push-polling, caging lists and disenfranchisement.
We are not up against a party - we are up against an election stealing machine.
We have to kill them by the numbers - we have to swamp them with the impossibility of their dreams. We have to be so big and huge and numerous that they cannot win by cheating and lying and stealing.
It is not going to be easy, they stole all that and we have to win it back fair and square because we are better than they are, we are better than they can ever be.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
~ Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)
Comment by Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:04:14
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:04:14
I am very cranky today because the only Progressive radio station in the Rochester area, WROC 950 am (which carries all our favs), is switching formats to all sports tomorrow. 
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 13:07:10
It's not a "party" it's the mob.
And yes you can quote me.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 13:07:10
Quote by capt:
Good Morning!
Great post. The SOB's will steal this election too if they can. We can't ever (never never never) think for a pico-second these GOPhers have any honor or honesty.
We have to remember they can wiretap all phone calls, read all emails, sneak and peek without warrants, they have Diebold ES&S and all secret vote counting processes, they have all five multinational that own all cable news-o-tainment, they have fixers and push-polling, caging lists and disenfranchisement.
We are not up against a party - we are up against an election stealing machine.
We have to kill them by the numbers - we have to swamp them with the impossibility of their dreams. We have to be so big and huge and numerous that they cannot win by cheating and lying and stealing.
It is not going to be easy, they stole all that and we have to win it back fair and square because we are better than they are, we are better than they can ever be.You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
~ Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948)
It's not a "party" it's the mob.
And yes you can quote me.
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 13:10:02
So good to have loyal subjects.
Random on 07/31/2008 13:10:02
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by Random:Quote by Grumpymann:
And sense I'm about making new aquanteces (sp?)
Hello Random.
Hello Grumpy, incase you're wondering, Yes, I am the blog diety.
™
I bow in the general direction of you bloggy godishness......
So good to have loyal subjects.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:10:23
That seems to happen alot.
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:10:23
Quote by Shane-O:
I am very cranky today because the only Progressive radio station in the Rochester area, WROC 950 am (which carries all our favs), is switching formats to all sports tomorrow.
That seems to happen alot.
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 13:14:38
TriSec on 07/31/2008 13:14:38
Does Clear Channel own your station?
They did that in Boston. We had a low-wattage lefty station, they even filed a permit to construct a new antenna and go up to 10,000 watts.
As soon as the permit was approved, the format mysteriously 'flipped' to Latin/Salsa/Spanish.
Funny, that.
Of course, this was not long afterMitt Romney Bain Capital bought Clear Channel...
They did that in Boston. We had a low-wattage lefty station, they even filed a permit to construct a new antenna and go up to 10,000 watts.
As soon as the permit was approved, the format mysteriously 'flipped' to Latin/Salsa/Spanish.
Funny, that.
Of course, this was not long after
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:15:31
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:15:31
DJ - :spit:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:20:14
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:20:14
"putting on airs" hmmm - more code speak....
Comment by Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:23:17
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:23:17
Entercom owns the station -- and of course inquiries about the process were referred by the local station to them - nothing like dealing with huge media corporations - so people-friendly 
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:29:32
No doubt.
capt on 07/31/2008 13:29:32
Quote by Grumpymann:
It's not a "party" it's the mob.
And yes you can quote me.
No doubt.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:34:30
If this was an Obama ad two months ago? Presumption doesn't begin to describe. . .
capt on 07/31/2008 13:34:30
If this was an Obama ad two months ago? Presumption doesn't begin to describe. . .
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:35:37
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:35:37
Like I said - it's all candy coated code.
Comment by Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:35:48
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:35:48
I think 
meant Shell? Not Exxon-Mobil??
meant Shell? Not Exxon-Mobil??
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:36:25
capt on 07/31/2008 13:36:25
Obama owns Exxon? He is making way too much off the oil companies . . .
Wait a minute Obama doesn't own Exxon.
Nevermind.
Wait a minute Obama doesn't own Exxon.
Nevermind.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:36:36
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:36:36
Thom was talking yesterday about Gingrich's "Drill here, Drill now" petition. We need a Use it or Lose it petition to counter.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:38:23
Exxon! Closing gas stations because the stations aren't profitable enough . .
capt on 07/31/2008 13:38:23
HOUSTON — Exxon Mobil reported second-quarter earnings of $11.68 billion Thursday, the biggest quarterly profit ever by any U.S. corporation, but the results fell well short of Wall Street expectations and shares fell in premarket trading.
The world's largest publicly traded oil company said net income for the April-June period came to $2.22 a share, up from $10.26 billion, or $1.83 a share, a year ago.
Exxon! Closing gas stations because the stations aren't profitable enough . .
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:41:38
capt on 07/31/2008 13:41:38
I posted yesterday about my take that the pretty white girls juxaposed with the black guy is a racist ploy to drive concerns about the scary black guy coming for the white women.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Comment by 
livingonli on 07/31/2008 13:42:02
livingonli on 07/31/2008 13:42:02
Good morning everyone. 
Great blog, Raine. Hope everyone signed Kucinich's impeachment petition.
Listening to the right-wing callers indicate like our troll that they are getting all scrambly and desperate.
Great blog, Raine. Hope everyone signed Kucinich's impeachment petition.
Listening to the right-wing callers indicate like our troll that they are getting all scrambly and desperate.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:43:07
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:43:07
Dude - talk about arrogant
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:44:30
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 13:44:30
This is NOT the Bill Press show you ass!
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:46:58
capt on 07/31/2008 13:46:58
The 1 million number is including numbers of dead caused by lack of electricity, lack of medical care, lack of hospitals, lack of water, etc.
Not all the deaths we caused were from bullets and bombs or combat.
The guy is just wrong. 1 million might be a low number.
Not all the deaths we caused were from bullets and bombs or combat.
The guy is just wrong. 1 million might be a low number.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:48:14
capt on 07/31/2008 13:48:14
What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?
~ Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), "Non-Violence in Peace and War"
Comment by Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:48:42
I guess it was both Exxon and Shell.
Shane-O on 07/31/2008 13:48:42
Quote by capt:HOUSTON — Exxon Mobil reported second-quarter earnings of $11.68 billion Thursday, the biggest quarterly profit ever by any U.S. corporation, but the results fell well short of Wall Street expectations and shares fell in premarket trading.
The world's largest publicly traded oil company said net income for the April-June period came to $2.22 a share, up from $10.26 billion, or $1.83 a share, a year ago.
Exxon! Closing gas stations because the stations aren't profitable enough . .
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 13:49:04
livingonli on 07/31/2008 13:49:04
And because of the conflict, there have been a large number of Iraqis who have also fled to Jordan and Syria.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 13:49:07
Speaking as a SCARY BLACK MAN married to a short white woman.
It is racEist.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 13:49:07
Quote by capt:
I posted yesterday about my take that the pretty white girls juxaposed with the black guy is a racist ploy to drive concerns about the scary black guy coming for the white women.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Speaking as a SCARY BLACK MAN married to a short white woman.
It is racEist.
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 13:50:03
Crap, then I'm on the wrong blog!
;-)
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 13:50:03
Quote by wickedpam:
This is NOT the Bill Press show you ass!
Crap, then I'm on the wrong blog!
;-)
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:53:04
capt on 07/31/2008 13:53:04
Comment by 
velveeta jones on 07/31/2008 13:53:46
velveeta jones on 07/31/2008 13:53:46
*cough* Morn-ing. All. *cough*
Okay all better now. Awake-ish.
:)
Okay all better now. Awake-ish.
:)
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:55:03
capt on 07/31/2008 13:55:03
Wait a second - this isn't the Bill Press show blog?
Now I am confused . . .
Now I am confused . . .
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 13:55:36
livingonli on 07/31/2008 13:55:36
Good morning Velveeta. How's life treating you?
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:55:40
capt on 07/31/2008 13:55:40
Here Velveeta
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:57:47
capt on 07/31/2008 13:57:47
On June 21, 2000, the main headline on Drudge Report shouted that Bush was blaming Clinton and Gore for "high" gasoline/oil prices.
And that, to reiterate, was the year 2000:
And that, to reiterate, was the year 2000:
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 13:58:39
capt on 07/31/2008 13:58:39
If Barack was white it would be "Self confidence"
Comment by 
BobR on 07/31/2008 13:58:46
BobR on 07/31/2008 13:58:46
morning, folks... :coffee:
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 14:04:31
Hello Bob.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 14:04:31
Quote by BobR:
morning, folks... :coffee:
Hello Bob.
Comment by BobR on 07/31/2008 14:06:59
In case I haven't said it already (and I might have, but my short-term memory has gone "up in smoke") - welcome!
BobR on 07/31/2008 14:06:59
Quote by liam1965:
OK, I guess a short introduction is in order:
I'm Liam. I came from the SMS LiveBlog (well, not originally, originally I came from a zygote created by my Mom & Dad, but I digress), largely because here I can participate in the mornings, at lunch and in the evenings and not during work hours, without feeling like I missed out on anything, like fun topics or jokes or a paycheck after getting fired for lack of productivity.
I'm an Independent centrist-tending-towards-liberal but with fiscal conservative tendencies (in the real sense of the word, as in "if you stop spending and have a surplus, you can cut taxes" not in the sense of "let's see if people will buy it if we tell them cutting taxes on the rich will increase revenues").
I write really godawful humor essays on one of my blogs at http://liamhumor.blogspot.com and horribly uninformed political screeds at http://www.liamjohnson.net, and I have a book of the former that you can look at (but for heaven's sake, don't purchase!) at Amazon under the title "Cue Ball City (and other bald musings)", which I mention because my picture is on the cover, so you can see what I look like.
I have five children, two wives (well, one an ex, I'm no Romney) and three mortgages (on three houses, two are apartment buildings my wife manages).
Other than that, I smell funny, which is why I'm a better friend on line than in person.
In case I haven't said it already (and I might have, but my short-term memory has gone "up in smoke") - welcome!
Comment by BobR on 07/31/2008 14:08:35
We suspect a certain person pointed him to the blog and suggested he jump all over Mondo's shit. Typical cowards.
He created a sock-puppet to get around his 7 day suspension, so he's been banned for good.
BobR on 07/31/2008 14:08:35
Quote by Grumpymann:
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
We suspect a certain person pointed him to the blog and suggested he jump all over Mondo's shit. Typical cowards.
He created a sock-puppet to get around his 7 day suspension, so he's been banned for good.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:08:42
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:08:42
That's just wrong on so many levels :rofl:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:09:27
I wondered why Mondo got singled out
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:09:27
Quote by BobR:Quote by Grumpymann:
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
We suspect a certain person pointed him to the blog and suggested he jump all over Mondo's shit. Typical cowards.
He created a sock-puppet to get around his 7 day suspension, so he's been banned for good.
I wondered why Mondo got singled out
Comment by BobR on 07/31/2008 14:10:43
The House tried to pass a "Use it or Lose it" bill to force oil companies to drill the leases they already have or lose the leases, but the Repubs shot it down. It needed a 2/3 majority, and the Dems just couldn't wrangle that.
BobR on 07/31/2008 14:10:43
Quote by wickedpam:
Thom was talking yesterday about Gingrich's "Drill here, Drill now" petition. We need a Use it or Lose it petition to counter.
The House tried to pass a "Use it or Lose it" bill to force oil companies to drill the leases they already have or lose the leases, but the Repubs shot it down. It needed a 2/3 majority, and the Dems just couldn't wrangle that.
Comment by 
trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 14:11:09
And their ratings subsequently dropped off the charts. Isn't that interesting. A radio station that doesn't care about ratings, especially after upgrading the plant?
No matter really, IMO the FCC is aiming to kill off AM radio with this foolish IBOC nonsense.
trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 14:11:09
Quote by TriSec:
Does Clear Channel own your station?
They did that in Boston. We had a low-wattage lefty station, they even filed a permit to construct a new antenna and go up to 10,000 watts.
As soon as the permit was approved, the format mysteriously 'flipped' to Latin/Salsa/Spanish.
Funny, that.
Of course, this was not long afterMitt RomneyBain Capital bought Clear Channel...
And their ratings subsequently dropped off the charts. Isn't that interesting. A radio station that doesn't care about ratings, especially after upgrading the plant?
No matter really, IMO the FCC is aiming to kill off AM radio with this foolish IBOC nonsense.
Comment by 
Scoopster on 07/31/2008 14:12:30
Scoopster on 07/31/2008 14:12:30
Morning all..
Hey Tri.. what's the deal with the state fuzz putting a speed trap inside the Ted Williams Tunnel?!
Hey Tri.. what's the deal with the state fuzz putting a speed trap inside the Ted Williams Tunnel?!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:12:35
I'm sure it could go up for a vote again can't they. I mean if people really pushed.
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:12:35
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
Thom was talking yesterday about Gingrich's "Drill here, Drill now" petition. We need a Use it or Lose it petition to counter.
The House tried to pass a "Use it or Lose it" bill to force oil companies to drill the leases they already have or lose the leases, but the Repubs shot it down. It needed a 2/3 majority, and the Dems just couldn't wrangle that.
I'm sure it could go up for a vote again can't they. I mean if people really pushed.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 14:13:08
Thanks. I was wondering what it was all about.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 14:13:08
Quote by BobR:Quote by Grumpymann:
Well my dearest Wicked your luck had to run out sooner or later.....
Whats with the new infestation of TROLLFLIES?
Was yesterday the start, an isolated incident or am I going to have to put on my "Naughty boy Pants"?
We suspect a certain person pointed him to the blog and suggested he jump all over Mondo's shit. Typical cowards.
He created a sock-puppet to get around his 7 day suspension, so he's been banned for good.
Thanks. I was wondering what it was all about.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 14:26:08
Really? Damn who would have thunk!
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 14:26:08
In case you had any doubt, today's NY Times confirms that the Bush/Rove crew has taken over McCain's campaign:
Mr. McCain’s campaign is now under the leadership of members of President Bush’s re-election campaign, including Steve Schmidt, the czar of the Bush war room that relentlessly painted his opponent, Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts, as effete, elite, and equivocal through a daily blitz of sound bites and Web videos that were carefully coordinated with Mr. Bush’s television advertisements.
The run of attacks against Mr. Obama over the last couple of weeks have been strikingly reminiscent of that drive, including the Bush team’s tactics of seeking to make campaigns referendums on its opponents — not a choice between two candidates — and attacking the opponent’s perceived strengths head-on. Central to the latest McCain drive is an attempt to use against Mr. Obama the huge crowds and excitement he has drawn, including on his foreign trip last week, by promoting a view of him as more interested in attention and adulation than in solving the problems facing American families.
Really? Damn who would have thunk!
Comment by 
starling310 on 07/31/2008 14:28:14
starling310 on 07/31/2008 14:28:14
Morning.
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:fbump:
:coffee2:
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:coffee2:
Comment by starling310 on 07/31/2008 14:29:21
starling310 on 07/31/2008 14:29:21
I thought there were more trolls here last night. It took me a while to realize that Liam and Leorising are NOT trolls.
:banana:
:banana:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:29:37
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:29:37
Wow - you go Ann with the Peter Lorre facts
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 14:29:56
livingonli on 07/31/2008 14:29:56
Good morning
Wish I could be poetic like Mgm.
Wish I could be poetic like Mgm.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:31:10
Oh wow Leorising came over from the SMS live blog - cool.
Yeah I didn't realize Liam came from there too until he mentioned it.
I think it's cool everyone likes to come here to kick back and relax :D
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:31:10
Quote by starling310:
I thought there were more trolls here last night. It took me a while to realize that Liam and Leorising are NOT trolls.
:banana:
Oh wow Leorising came over from the SMS live blog - cool.
Yeah I didn't realize Liam came from there too until he mentioned it.
I think it's cool everyone likes to come here to kick back and relax :D
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 14:32:29
And Entercom is not much better than Clear Channel, trying to spread their WEEI-style reich-wing propaganda disguised as sports talk. If you have a Murdoch owned paper in the area expect to see some of their writers and columnists end up as guests or get their own show.
trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 14:32:29
Quote by Shane-O:
Entercom owns the station -- and of course inquiries about the process were referred by the local station to them - nothing like dealing with huge media corporations - so people-friendly
And Entercom is not much better than Clear Channel, trying to spread their WEEI-style reich-wing propaganda disguised as sports talk. If you have a Murdoch owned paper in the area expect to see some of their writers and columnists end up as guests or get their own show.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:35:31
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:35:31
woof - the sound dogs make when they bark low
wolf - the thing that chased LIttle Red Riding Hood.
wolf - the thing that chased LIttle Red Riding Hood.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 14:35:57
capt on 07/31/2008 14:35:57
Look at the $$ follow the money - the RNC is the source of McCain campaign funds and the RNC is run by Busheney . . . .
Comment by starling310 on 07/31/2008 14:36:43
starling310 on 07/31/2008 14:36:43
My lady friend is on those Meds, that this caller is talking about, and she is no John McCain!!!
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 14:41:00
capt on 07/31/2008 14:41:00
McCain is a "surge" of flop sweat.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 14:42:02
capt on 07/31/2008 14:42:02
The reason the Reich-wingnuts keep harping on the "surge" is because the occupation failed and they refuse to face it.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 14:42:38
capt on 07/31/2008 14:42:38
$520 Ferragamo shoes. McCain stands by those. . .
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 14:43:31
It's the end of the month...
I've seen an entire line of cops sitting at the Eastbound exit for Logan Airport pulling over and inspecting everyone taking that exit.
There's also the brief cut between the TWT and the artery approach that's out in the sun and is 6 lanes wide; that's usually where they hang out. ("Checkpoint Charlie" in the local vernacular...)
TriSec on 07/31/2008 14:43:31
Quote by Scoopster:
Morning all..
Hey Tri.. what's the deal with the state fuzz putting a speed trap inside the Ted Williams Tunnel?!
It's the end of the month...
I've seen an entire line of cops sitting at the Eastbound exit for Logan Airport pulling over and inspecting everyone taking that exit.
There's also the brief cut between the TWT and the artery approach that's out in the sun and is 6 lanes wide; that's usually where they hang out. ("Checkpoint Charlie" in the local vernacular...)
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 14:43:34
Good.
I would hate to think you had "Made a change".
(You know I kid because I LOVE.)
Really I kid cuz I try like hell to be funny.
But I still LOVE.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 14:43:34
Quote by starling310:
My lady friend is on those Meds, that this caller is talking about, and she is no John McCain!!!
Good.
I would hate to think you had "Made a change".
(You know I kid because I LOVE.)
Really I kid cuz I try like hell to be funny.
But I still LOVE.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:43:55
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:43:55
when you cut taxes you gain more revenue? :thud:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:45:30
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 14:45:30
Wow I want that recession then! I got to buy a house cause of that one. I could afford to go on vacation. I could afford gas for my car. I could afford to live on my own. I could afford grocerys. Then yeah, bring me another Clinton "recession"
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 14:47:50
Who's that coming over my bridge!
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 14:47:50
Quote by starling310:
I thought there were more trolls here last night. It took me a while to realize that Liam and Leorising are NOT trolls.
Who's that coming over my bridge!
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 14:49:11
Right-wingers just don't seem to be good at math. Reagan actually promised that his tax cuts would reduce the budget deficits from the Carter Administration and look what happened.
livingonli on 07/31/2008 14:49:11
Quote by wickedpam:
when you cut taxes you gain more revenue? :thud:
Right-wingers just don't seem to be good at math. Reagan actually promised that his tax cuts would reduce the budget deficits from the Carter Administration and look what happened.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 14:49:48
In case you didn't know those "People" have their own group that say what erer they are told to say.
Lie on FUX they call them experts.
The idea that "You have the right to your own opinion but not your own facts."
Is about as lost as Humanity.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 14:49:48
Quote by wickedpam:
when you cut taxes you gain more revenue? :thud:
In case you didn't know those "People" have their own group that say what erer they are told to say.
Lie on FUX they call them experts.
The idea that "You have the right to your own opinion but not your own facts."
Is about as lost as Humanity.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 14:56:58
capt on 07/31/2008 14:56:58
The mooks can be very tool-like. UGH!
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:04:39
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:04:39
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/31/2008 15:07:03
velveeta jones on 07/31/2008 15:07:03
AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!
I HATE China!! They suck!!
:rage:
Just tried to fix my 1 year old home shredder - probably just a blown fuse, but since those fuckheads make it IMPOSSIBLE to open without breaking it. It now resides in the bottom of the garbage, ready for the landfill.
I am NOT going to buy any more CRAP for those dog killers!!
:boom:
I HATE China!! They suck!!
:rage:
Just tried to fix my 1 year old home shredder - probably just a blown fuse, but since those fuckheads make it IMPOSSIBLE to open without breaking it. It now resides in the bottom of the garbage, ready for the landfill.
I am NOT going to buy any more CRAP for those dog killers!!
:boom:
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 15:10:43
livingonli on 07/31/2008 15:10:43
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/31/2008 15:14:32
velveeta jones on 07/31/2008 15:14:32
Hey Liv! Sorry I missed your post, cause I'm in "lurk mode" due to busy housework duties, aka "honey do" lists.
Listening to SMS and........... ya know. Working before work.
Listening to SMS and........... ya know. Working before work.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:25:11
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:25:11
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 15:26:50
Just remember, it was DESIGNED that way. And it's quite possible that an American designed it.
Unfortunately the typical Amurrican consumer doesn't realize that you save by buying a $129 widget that lasts 5 years, rather than buying a $40 widget every year. Now those quality widgets aren't being made anymore.
trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 15:26:50
Quote by velveeta jones:
AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!
I HATE China!! They suck!!
:rage:
Just tried to fix my 1 year old home shredder - probably just a blown fuse, but since those fuckheads make it IMPOSSIBLE to open without breaking it. It now resides in the bottom of the garbage, ready for the landfill.
I am NOT going to buy any more CRAP for those dog killers!!
:boom:
Just remember, it was DESIGNED that way. And it's quite possible that an American designed it.
Unfortunately the typical Amurrican consumer doesn't realize that you save by buying a $129 widget that lasts 5 years, rather than buying a $40 widget every year. Now those quality widgets aren't being made anymore.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:27:32
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:27:32
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by capt:
Leave Barack Alone!
I think I just pissed myself.
Sorry......
Yup I did.
TMI!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 15:27:34
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 15:27:34
I loved Match Game.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 15:28:11
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 15:28:11
Card Sharks better be on that list.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:29:20
Sorry.......
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:29:20
Quote by livingonli:Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by capt:
Leave Barack Alone!
I think I just pissed myself.
Yup I did.
TMI!
Sorry.......
Comment by velveeta jones on 07/31/2008 15:30:36
Really? Sorry, I'm cynical today.................
Are they really gonna do anything?
And, if one of us breaks the law, can we sit there all day and say things like "I can't recall if I can remember........."
<_<
velveeta jones on 07/31/2008 15:30:36
Quote by Grumpymann:
Oh MY GOD! Law in the US? Looks like it's making a come back.
Really? Sorry, I'm cynical today.................
Are they really gonna do anything?
And, if one of us breaks the law, can we sit there all day and say things like "I can't recall if I can remember........."
<_<
Comment by starling310 on 07/31/2008 15:35:39
starling310 on 07/31/2008 15:35:39
I wonder if Tom Brokaw has ever caught wind of the fact that Jim does an awesome impression of him!
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:36:35
I will remember that the next time some Con says hes a "Law and order" type Rethug.
I guess I will just set him on fire.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:36:35
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Grumpymann:
Oh MY GOD! Law in the US? Looks like it's making a come back.
Really? Sorry, I'm cynical today.................
Are they really gonna do anything?
And, if one of us breaks the law, can we sit there all day and say things like "I can't recall if I can remember........."
<_<
I guess I will just set him on fire.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 15:38:05
There will be some VERY strongly worded letters if they don't obey the law.
Maybe some finger wagging, a few impassioned comments on camera.
NEXT!
capt on 07/31/2008 15:38:05
Quote by velveeta jones:Quote by Grumpymann:
Oh MY GOD! Law in the US? Looks like it's making a come back.
Really? Sorry, I'm cynical today.................
Are they really gonna do anything?
And, if one of us breaks the law, can we sit there all day and say things like "I can't recall if I can remember........."
<_<
There will be some VERY strongly worded letters if they don't obey the law.
Maybe some finger wagging, a few impassioned comments on camera.
NEXT!
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.
~ George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 15:38:09
TriSec on 07/31/2008 15:38:09
Comment by 
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 15:40:46
Grump shall we go change our special John McCain model Depends?
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 15:40:46
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by capt:
Leave Barack Alone!
I think I just pissed myself.
Yup I did.
Grump shall we go change our special John McCain model Depends?
Comment by 
Raine on 07/31/2008 15:41:56
Raine on 07/31/2008 15:41:56
good googly moogly. I just woke up!
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 15:43:42
capt on 07/31/2008 15:43:42
The New Normal: McCain's Desperate Ad Hours
What the McCain campaign doesn’t want people to know, according to one GOP strategist I spoke with over the weekend, is that they had an ad script ready to go if Obama had visited the wounded troops saying that Obama was...wait for it...using wounded troops as campaign props. So, no matter which way Obama turned, McCain had an Obama bashing ad ready to launch. I guess that’s political hardball. But another word for it is the one word that most politicians are loathe to use about their opponents—a lie.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 15:45:39
Morning Sunshine! Guess what time I finally got to sleep last night? What was that drop stuff you mentioned last night??
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 15:45:39
Quote by Raine:
good googly moogly. I just woke up!
Morning Sunshine! Guess what time I finally got to sleep last night? What was that drop stuff you mentioned last night??
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 15:46:23
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 15:46:23
Hey Raine, Mondo, anyone and eveyone I missed. :D
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 15:46:57
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 15:46:57
Mondo - Mama Mala wanted me to tell you she's very proud of you, btw.
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:48:01
I think I a bit..... too big for such a small size.
I Respect the way you handled that TROLL yesterday.
Hats off to you you pretty much stayed cool.
Good job.
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:48:01
Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by capt:
Leave Barack Alone!
I think I just pissed myself.
Yup I did.
Grump shall we go change our special John McCain model Depends?
I think I a bit..... too big for such a small size.
I Respect the way you handled that TROLL yesterday.
Hats off to you you pretty much stayed cool.
Good job.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 15:48:42
capt on 07/31/2008 15:48:42
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 15:49:33
livingonli on 07/31/2008 15:49:33
A belated good morning to Raine. It must have been that kind of morning.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 15:49:52
VA is actually purple, leaning toward blue. That's huge!
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 15:49:52
Quote by capt:Quote by wickedpam:
The latest Zogby Electoral Map
New Mexico is solid blue! I love it!!!!!
VA is actually purple, leaning toward blue. That's huge!
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 15:50:56
capt on 07/31/2008 15:50:56
No passion so effectually robs the mind of all its powers of acting and reasoning as fear.
~ Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797), "A Philosophical Inquiry into the Origin of Our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful", 1756
Comment by starling310 on 07/31/2008 15:52:52
Moi? Go to the dark side. :bad:
Never!
Never!!
Never!!
: vapors :
------> 
<------- Lovely Lady Friend
starling310 on 07/31/2008 15:52:52
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by starling310:
My lady friend is on those Meds, that this caller is talking about, and she is no John McCain!!!
Good.
I would hate to think you had "Made a change".
(You know I kid because I LOVE.)
Really I kid cuz I try like hell to be funny.
But I still LOVE.
Moi? Go to the dark side. :bad:
Never!
Never!!
Never!!
: vapors :
------> <------- Lovely Lady Friend
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 15:53:03
capt on 07/31/2008 15:53:03
Those polls are loaded. They ask questions like:
"If drilling lowers gas prices are you infavor of drilling now, soon or never?"
It is Madison Ave. push-polling by multinationals.
*puts on tin foil hat*
"If drilling lowers gas prices are you infavor of drilling now, soon or never?"
It is Madison Ave. push-polling by multinationals.
*puts on tin foil hat*
Comment by Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:54:54
You make me want to be a woman!
Grumpymann on 07/31/2008 15:54:54
Quote by starling310:Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by starling310:
My lady friend is on those Meds, that this caller is talking about, and she is no John McCain!!!
Good.
I would hate to think you had "Made a change".
(You know I kid because I LOVE.)
Really I kid cuz I try like hell to be funny.
But I still LOVE.
Moi? Go to the dark side. :bad:
Never!
Never!!
Never!!
: vapors :
You make me want to be a woman!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 15:55:02
There were many things in the thought bubble, but they stayed there.
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 15:55:02
Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by Mondobubba:Quote by Grumpymann:Quote by capt:
Leave Barack Alone!
I think I just pissed myself.
Yup I did.
Grump shall we go change our special John McCain model Depends?
I think I a bit..... too big for such a small size.
I Respect the way you handled that TROLL yesterday.
Hats off to you you pretty much stayed cool.
Good job.
There were many things in the thought bubble, but they stayed there.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 15:56:08
capt on 07/31/2008 15:56:08
How could anybody tell if Hume actually said uppity?
Comment by BobR on 07/31/2008 15:57:27
Even if McCain got all the purple states, Obama would still have more electoral votes! :banana:
BobR on 07/31/2008 15:57:27
Quote by wickedpam:
The latest Zogby Electoral Map
Even if McCain got all the purple states, Obama would still have more electoral votes! :banana:
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 16:01:22
You were great (IYAM) - *high fives*
THAT is one of the other good things about you 4-effers! I like it that when necessary the adult shows through.
capt on 07/31/2008 16:01:22
Quote by Mondobubba:
There were many things in the thought bubble, but they stayed there.
You were great (IYAM) - *high fives*
THAT is one of the other good things about you 4-effers! I like it that when necessary the adult shows through.
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 16:02:52
Read the closed-captions if the captioner can even understand him.
livingonli on 07/31/2008 16:02:52
Quote by capt:
How could anybody tell if Hume actually said uppity?
Read the closed-captions if the captioner can even understand him.
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 16:03:12
TriSec on 07/31/2008 16:03:12
I think it's rather telling to look at the red states and see where they all fall.
Not to play on a Northern stereotype (and apologies to our southern members who clearly transcend said stereotype) but aren't all the red ones tending to be poor, rural, and poorly-educated?
Not to play on a Northern stereotype (and apologies to our southern members who clearly transcend said stereotype) but aren't all the red ones tending to be poor, rural, and poorly-educated?
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 16:04:14
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 16:04:14
I said this over on the SMS LiveBlog, but since they're done for the day, I'll repeat here for discussion:
I believe the problem with the allowing of gay marriage in MA for couples from other states is that then *THEY CAN’T GET DIVORCED*.
Because you can only get divorced in your state of residence, but if your state of residence doesn’t recognize you’re marriage, you end up stuck.
And given that half of all straight marriages end in divorce, I would have to assume something like a similar number of gay couples will eventually split up as well…
Thoughts?
I believe the problem with the allowing of gay marriage in MA for couples from other states is that then *THEY CAN’T GET DIVORCED*.
Because you can only get divorced in your state of residence, but if your state of residence doesn’t recognize you’re marriage, you end up stuck.
And given that half of all straight marriages end in divorce, I would have to assume something like a similar number of gay couples will eventually split up as well…
Thoughts?
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 16:05:07
Do you mean "Bitter?" Clinging to guns and religion?
capt on 07/31/2008 16:05:07
Quote by TriSec:
I think it's rather telling to look at the red states and see where they all fall.
Not to play on a Northern stereotype (and apologies to our southern members who clearly transcend said stereotype) but aren't all the red ones tending to be poor, rural, and poorly-educated?
Do you mean "Bitter?" Clinging to guns and religion?
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 16:08:37
TriSec on 07/31/2008 16:08:37
If the state doesn't recognize the marriage, then there's no legal leg to stand on for a divorce.
You simply walk away.
You simply walk away.
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 16:08:46
Raine on 07/31/2008 16:08:46
:yawn:
OK, I NEED to never be up all night writing stuff... this is stoopid! :yawn:
OK, I NEED to never be up all night writing stuff... this is stoopid! :yawn:
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 16:10:46
Sadly, not any more. They destroyed that by putting out a sufficient number of crappy products at the expensive price, so that people started to equate the $40 widget every year with the $129 widget every year.
And for me, the economy works out on some things. For instance, my wide feet'll destroy a pair of sneakers in about 3-5 months, no matter how well made, even if I find ones that are supposedly wide in size. If I buy the $15 pair from a discount shoe store, they may last closer to the 3 months. If I buy the $70 (or higher!) name brand, they may last closer to the 5 months, but either way, I end up better off with the cheap ones.
Try looking through Consumer Reports these days. On electronics, the differences in ratings are almost exclusively on features, usability and customer service, the reliability ratings simply don't differ by all that much on most things. So the idea that you can spend twice as much one fifth as often is no longer true.
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 16:10:46
Quote by trojanrabbit:
Unfortunately the typical Amurrican consumer doesn't realize that you save by buying a $129 widget that lasts 5 years, rather than buying a $40 widget every year. Now those quality widgets aren't being made anymore.
Sadly, not any more. They destroyed that by putting out a sufficient number of crappy products at the expensive price, so that people started to equate the $40 widget every year with the $129 widget every year.
And for me, the economy works out on some things. For instance, my wide feet'll destroy a pair of sneakers in about 3-5 months, no matter how well made, even if I find ones that are supposedly wide in size. If I buy the $15 pair from a discount shoe store, they may last closer to the 3 months. If I buy the $70 (or higher!) name brand, they may last closer to the 5 months, but either way, I end up better off with the cheap ones.
Try looking through Consumer Reports these days. On electronics, the differences in ratings are almost exclusively on features, usability and customer service, the reliability ratings simply don't differ by all that much on most things. So the idea that you can spend twice as much one fifth as often is no longer true.
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 16:11:15
livingonli on 07/31/2008 16:11:15
Dennis Kucinich is on with Thom right now.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 16:11:21
trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 16:11:21
Today is Pizza day at work. I think the group ordered 30 pizzas.
I have just now consumed mass quantities *burp* and am prepared to die.
I have just now consumed mass quantities *burp* and am prepared to die.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 16:11:50
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 16:11:50
lol - I can hear Thom or someone typing in the address
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 16:14:19
Raine on 07/31/2008 16:14:19
Ok, I perused das bloggie...
zOMG! you guys are highlaiious!
:rofl: <--- collective overall belly laugh
zOMG! you guys are highlaiious!
:rofl: <--- collective overall belly laugh
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 16:17:44
This is why these national polls mean so very little to me, at this point.
It is all about the states... ALL about the electoral vote... ALL ABOUT not letting those effers NOT steal the vote!
Raine on 07/31/2008 16:17:44
Quote by BobR:Quote by wickedpam:
The latest Zogby Electoral Map
Even if McCain got all the purple states, Obama would still have more electoral votes! :banana:
It is all about the states... ALL about the electoral vote... ALL ABOUT not letting those effers NOT steal the vote!
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 16:18:37
trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 16:18:37
Sometimes if I get to the 'cast quick enough I'll listen to the show and sorta follow along with the blog. Though it's more likely tonight I'll just be turning in for the night when I get to listen to the show and I'll fall asleep midway through hour 1.
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 16:19:24
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 16:19:24
Not letting them NOT steal the vote?
Reverse psychology? ;-)
Reverse psychology? ;-)
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 16:26:53
livingonli on 07/31/2008 16:26:53
Pizza day rocks. Then again where I work, we're always looking for free food. I think there's something about working in TV and free meals.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 16:32:32
trojanrabbit on 07/31/2008 16:32:32
These pizza days tend to be semi-annual affairs. In this case one particularly long-running project is finally being kicked out the door.
I'll be very interested in seeing what my blood sugar is in 90 minutes.
I'll be very interested in seeing what my blood sugar is in 90 minutes.
Comment by 
leorising on 07/31/2008 16:35:42
leorising on 07/31/2008 16:35:42
Good morning, all.
M'ann Coulter has put out a new column, entitled, "A Baby Daddy For Both Americas". She basically calls John Edwards everything but white, because he cheated on his "cancer-riddled" wife. She's taking quite a beating in the comments. Care to join the fun?
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27793&page=1#c1
My comments never get printed. I think this time my comment about "time to look into getting that adam's apple shaved" was what killed it... :lol:
M'ann Coulter has put out a new column, entitled, "A Baby Daddy For Both Americas". She basically calls John Edwards everything but white, because he cheated on his "cancer-riddled" wife. She's taking quite a beating in the comments. Care to join the fun?
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27793&page=1#c1
My comments never get printed. I think this time my comment about "time to look into getting that adam's apple shaved" was what killed it... :lol:
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 16:36:19
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 16:36:19
Is there any place in the world Thom hasn't lived?
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 16:38:09
livingonli on 07/31/2008 16:38:09
Jake is on with Thom now. Is there a show that he doesn't call?
Comment by Scoopster on 07/31/2008 16:39:12
Scoopster on 07/31/2008 16:39:12
Back.. for the moment. End of the month day is always quite busy! At least we're still going good with the downturn and all..
...and we're not doing pizza today, but we are gettin lunch on the boss from the local mexican place. Mmmm sweet corn salsa!
...and we're not doing pizza today, but we are gettin lunch on the boss from the local mexican place. Mmmm sweet corn salsa!
Comment by leorising on 07/31/2008 16:41:24
leorising on 07/31/2008 16:41:24
Liam, I think a case could be made in court that an unrecognized gay marriage still constituted a civil contract. It might be more like a "common law" kind of thing, I dunno...I can't imagine one party walking away from a marriage scott-free, simply because that ceremony was not recognized in the resident state...
Too deep, too early in the morning. 
Too deep, too early in the morning.
Comment by Scoopster on 07/31/2008 16:41:52
We had a case here in RI that went to the state supreme court.. One of the first lesbian couples married in MA filed for divorce here, and the court's decision said exactly what you mentioned - they can't grant a divorce for a marriage that the state doesn't constitutionally or legislatively recognize.
Scoopster on 07/31/2008 16:41:52
Quote by liam1965:
I said this over on the SMS LiveBlog, but since they're done for the day, I'll repeat here for discussion:
I believe the problem with the allowing of gay marriage in MA for couples from other states is that then *THEY CAN’T GET DIVORCED*.
Because you can only get divorced in your state of residence, but if your state of residence doesn’t recognize you’re marriage, you end up stuck.
And given that half of all straight marriages end in divorce, I would have to assume something like a similar number of gay couples will eventually split up as well…
Thoughts?
We had a case here in RI that went to the state supreme court.. One of the first lesbian couples married in MA filed for divorce here, and the court's decision said exactly what you mentioned - they can't grant a divorce for a marriage that the state doesn't constitutionally or legislatively recognize.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 16:43:04
capt on 07/31/2008 16:43:04
If the truth doesn't save us, what does that say about us?
~ Lois McMaster Bujold, Diplomatic Immunity, 2002
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 16:47:42
capt on 07/31/2008 16:47:42
Divorce is the only real threat to marriage or the institution of it. ~ capt
Comment by leorising on 07/31/2008 16:48:51
Wow, Scoopster, that's amazing. I sit corrected!
leorising on 07/31/2008 16:48:51
Quote by Scoopster:Quote by liam1965:
I said this over on the SMS LiveBlog, but since they're done for the day, I'll repeat here for discussion:
I believe the problem with the allowing of gay marriage in MA for couples from other states is that then *THEY CAN’T GET DIVORCED*.
Because you can only get divorced in your state of residence, but if your state of residence doesn’t recognize you’re marriage, you end up stuck.
And given that half of all straight marriages end in divorce, I would have to assume something like a similar number of gay couples will eventually split up as well…
Thoughts?
We had a case here in RI that went to the state supreme court.. One of the first lesbian couples married in MA filed for divorce here, and the court's decision said exactly what you mentioned - they can't grant a divorce for a marriage that the state doesn't constitutionally or legislatively recognize.
Wow, Scoopster, that's amazing. I sit corrected!
Comment by leorising on 07/31/2008 16:50:39
leorising on 07/31/2008 16:50:39
Be back later, kids. Enjoy!
<-- McCain
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 16:59:16
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 16:59:16
Dang - missed Leo!
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 17:02:48
TriSec on 07/31/2008 17:02:48
More NYPD follies...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 17:03:20
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 17:03:20
Did I just hear the Phoneix news right? Bushie is pushing coal as a new energy source? Coal? Really? Coal? That thing that Scrooge wouldn't let Bob Cratchet put in the fire? That Coal?
Way to gear up that backwards machine. :thud:
Way to gear up that backwards machine. :thud:
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 17:03:59
Raine on 07/31/2008 17:03:59
:kickcan: the message board seems to be down. HArumpH!
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 17:06:55
Uhm... hmm... I don't think so!
Raine on 07/31/2008 17:06:55
Quote by wickedpam:
Is there any place in the world Thom hasn't lived?
Uhm... hmm... I don't think so!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 17:10:02
Bush has been yammering about coal since 2001. "Clean coal technology" yada yada yada? Gee could that be because he is in bed with every from of extractive energy bidness in this country?
Speaking of GOPhers in bed with big bidness, John McCain's statements on sun screen prove he is in bed with with big ointment.
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 17:10:02
Quote by wickedpam:
Did I just hear the Phoneix news right? Bushie is pushing coal as a new energy source? Coal? Really? Coal? That thing that Scrooge wouldn't let Bob Cratchet put in the fire? That Coal?
Way to gear up that backwards machine. :thud:
Bush has been yammering about coal since 2001. "Clean coal technology" yada yada yada? Gee could that be because he is in bed with every from of extractive energy bidness in this country?
Speaking of GOPhers in bed with big bidness, John McCain's statements on sun screen prove he is in bed with with big ointment.
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 17:16:25
TriSec on 07/31/2008 17:16:25
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 17:18:01
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 17:18:01
Joy! My favorite Nicole Kidman movie, "To Die For" is coming on the HBO mosheen! If you haven't seen it, do so. It is a wonderful little black comedy.
Comment by starling310 on 07/31/2008 17:18:22
starling310 on 07/31/2008 17:18:22
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 17:28:35
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 17:28:35
(Sorry for the delay).
So I have to wonder, if my wife started talking about leaving me, and I ran out and got myself a sex change, could I then prevent her from divorcing me?
Oh, wait, gay marriage is legal here in NH.
OK, so if I ran out and got that sex change AND moved to, say, TX... No, wait, I wouldn't want to be a woman in TX.
OK, um...
Never mind, I'm kind of fond of my nibblets anyway...
So I have to wonder, if my wife started talking about leaving me, and I ran out and got myself a sex change, could I then prevent her from divorcing me?
Oh, wait, gay marriage is legal here in NH.
OK, so if I ran out and got that sex change AND moved to, say, TX... No, wait, I wouldn't want to be a woman in TX.
OK, um...
Never mind, I'm kind of fond of my nibblets anyway...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 17:30:53
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 17:30:53
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 17:31:10
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 17:31:10
I'm pretty sure that "clean coal" is a euphamism for "coal which burns marginally cleaner than the stuff that blackened the air a hundred years ago, but which is still far dirtier than oil and other current options.
I read it somewhere, wish I had a source, so I wasn't just talkin' out my butt (which, by the way, is also significantly cleaner than "clean coal").
I read it somewhere, wish I had a source, so I wasn't just talkin' out my butt (which, by the way, is also significantly cleaner than "clean coal").
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 17:32:23
TriSec on 07/31/2008 17:32:23
liam, another New Englander?
Why, we've taken over the blog!!
:pirate:
Why, we've taken over the blog!!
:pirate:
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 17:34:02
TriSec on 07/31/2008 17:34:02
Trade deadline stuff for the baseball inclined...
Griffey approved a trade to the White Sox (awaiting MLB approval)
aaaaaand this just in, Manny has OK'd the deal to the Marlins. Looks like the three-way is still alive.
Griffey approved a trade to the White Sox (awaiting MLB approval)
aaaaaand this just in, Manny has OK'd the deal to the Marlins. Looks like the three-way is still alive.
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 17:34:34
You don't suppose his boyfriend asked him for some head, and he got confused?
(Perhaps that's inappropriate, but I can't read something like that and not make a joke out of it. It's too painful, otherwise).
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 17:34:34
Quote by TriSec:
Good Lord! And this was in Canada!
Not for the squeamish.
You don't suppose his boyfriend asked him for some head, and he got confused?
(Perhaps that's inappropriate, but I can't read something like that and not make a joke out of it. It's too painful, otherwise).
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 17:44:48
Well, you know what they say: Living in America is the price we pay to for the privilege of living in New England.
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 17:44:48
Quote by TriSec:
liam, another New Englander?
Why, we've taken over the blog!!
:pirate:
Well, you know what they say: Living in America is the price we pay to for the privilege of living in New England.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 17:52:54
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 17:52:54
:cry:
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 17:54:09
capt on 07/31/2008 17:54:09
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 17:58:53
Wadda matter your Wickedness?
I hate to hear anybody cry.
capt on 07/31/2008 17:58:53
Quote by wickedpam:
:cry:
Wadda matter your Wickedness?
I hate to hear anybody cry.
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 18:00:04
pet stories from Thom
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 18:00:04
Quote by capt:Quote by wickedpam:
:cry:
Wadda matter your Wickedness?
I hate to hear anybody cry.
pet stories from Thom
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 18:01:40
That's all. That's just walking around money.
:lights cigar with 100 dollar bill:
livingonli on 07/31/2008 18:01:40
Quote by TriSec:
Exxon: $11.68b profit in Q208
That's all. That's just walking around money.
:lights cigar with 100 dollar bill:
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 18:03:10
capt on 07/31/2008 18:03:10
Maybe a little sleepy kitten will help?
Comment by BobR on 07/31/2008 18:18:11
Something about that story makes me think "Manchurian Candidate"...
BobR on 07/31/2008 18:18:11
Quote by TriSec:
Good Lord! And this was in Canada!
Not for the squeamish.
Something about that story makes me think "Manchurian Candidate"...
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 18:20:34
needs more kittens less mcsame :p
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 18:20:34
Quote by capt:
Maybe a little sleepy kitten will help?
needs more kittens less mcsame :p
Comment by starling310 on 07/31/2008 18:21:51
That story freaked me out so much, I called my girlfriend to come over.
:nervous:
starling310 on 07/31/2008 18:21:51
Quote by BobR:Quote by TriSec:
Good Lord! And this was in Canada!
Not for the squeamish.
Something about that story makes me think "Manchurian Candidate"...
That story freaked me out so much, I called my girlfriend to come over.
:nervous:
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 18:24:56
capt on 07/31/2008 18:24:56
Your wish is my command!
Comment by wickedpam on 07/31/2008 18:28:45
wickedpam on 07/31/2008 18:28:45
Awwwww 
I'm not a cat person but they made me want one :p
I'm not a cat person but they made me want one :p
Comment by BobR on 07/31/2008 18:32:38
somebody put a lot of work into that one with the photoshop and the flaven, but the spots on the couch moving around are kind of a giveaway that this isn't a "live" shot...
BobR on 07/31/2008 18:32:38
Quote by capt:
Your wish is my command!
somebody put a lot of work into that one with the photoshop and the flaven, but the spots on the couch moving around are kind of a giveaway that this isn't a "live" shot...
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 18:32:55
livingonli on 07/31/2008 18:32:55
Christie Harvey is coming up on Thom Hartmann.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 18:38:58
I just entered "kittens dancing" in the youtube search - it actually comes up twice - one has different music. FWIW
I dunno if they were trying to portray a "live shot" - just kittens dancing.
Good catch - just the same.
capt on 07/31/2008 18:38:58
Quote by BobR:
somebody put a lot of work into that one with the photoshop and the flaven, but the spots on the couch moving around are kind of a giveaway that this isn't a "live" shot...
I just entered "kittens dancing" in the youtube search - it actually comes up twice - one has different music. FWIW
I dunno if they were trying to portray a "live shot" - just kittens dancing.
Good catch - just the same.
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 18:45:52
Actually, I'm not sure whether the spots moving are the result of stitching the video together or whether that's just because someone did an insanely high compression on the video, leading to some pretty bad pixelation...
(And as badly pixelated as it is, I'm not sure my 40+ year old eyes could tell for sure, either way.)
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 18:45:52
Quote by BobR:
somebody put a lot of work into that one with the photoshop and the flaven, but the spots on the couch moving around are kind of a giveaway that this isn't a "live" shot...
Actually, I'm not sure whether the spots moving are the result of stitching the video together or whether that's just because someone did an insanely high compression on the video, leading to some pretty bad pixelation...
(And as badly pixelated as it is, I'm not sure my 40+ year old eyes could tell for sure, either way.)
Comment by livingonli on 07/31/2008 19:11:55
livingonli on 07/31/2008 19:11:55
I have to go to the post office and do errands and then go to work. I will pop in when I can. Talk to y'all then.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 19:14:48
capt on 07/31/2008 19:14:48
Hurry back - you'll be missed~!
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 19:28:08
OK, so that lunch didn't work out so well...
TriSec on 07/31/2008 19:28:08
OK, so that lunch didn't work out so well...
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 19:40:18
capt on 07/31/2008 19:40:18
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 19:40:22
John McCain and Britney Spears have something in common
How true how true.
Raine on 07/31/2008 19:40:22
How true how true.
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 19:48:09
TriSec on 07/31/2008 19:48:09
Now legal for out of state gays to marry in Mass!
Surrounded by cheering, clapping gay-rights activists and legislators, Governor Deval Patrick today signed a bill repealing a 95-year-old statute that had prevented gay and lesbian couples from most other states from marrying in Massachusetts.
"It's a good day," said Patrick, declaring that the repeal will "confirm a simple truth: that is, in Massachusetts, equal means equal."
Massachusetts will "continue to lead the way as a national leader" and affirm "all people come before their government as equals," Patrick said in a bill-signing ceremony at the State House's Grand Staircase. Gay marriage "is still troubling for some of our citizens," he said, "but it is still the law."
Patrick, who turned 52 today, also called the bill "a great birthday present."
Marc Solomon, executive director of MassEquality, a gay-rights organization, said, "This is really a new day. We welcome everyone from New York to come here and get married. We think it's a shame people can't get married in their own states."
The repeal took effect immediately, making Massachusetts the second state after California to allow same-sex couples to marry, regardless of residence. It opened the borders for potentially thousands of nonresident same-sex couples. That includes an estimated 49,000 couples from New York, where Governor David Paterson has instructed state agencies to recognize and grant benefits to gay couples who marry elsewhere, even though the Empire State does not authorize same-sex marriages.
Surrounded by cheering, clapping gay-rights activists and legislators, Governor Deval Patrick today signed a bill repealing a 95-year-old statute that had prevented gay and lesbian couples from most other states from marrying in Massachusetts.
"It's a good day," said Patrick, declaring that the repeal will "confirm a simple truth: that is, in Massachusetts, equal means equal."
Massachusetts will "continue to lead the way as a national leader" and affirm "all people come before their government as equals," Patrick said in a bill-signing ceremony at the State House's Grand Staircase. Gay marriage "is still troubling for some of our citizens," he said, "but it is still the law."
Patrick, who turned 52 today, also called the bill "a great birthday present."
Marc Solomon, executive director of MassEquality, a gay-rights organization, said, "This is really a new day. We welcome everyone from New York to come here and get married. We think it's a shame people can't get married in their own states."
The repeal took effect immediately, making Massachusetts the second state after California to allow same-sex couples to marry, regardless of residence. It opened the borders for potentially thousands of nonresident same-sex couples. That includes an estimated 49,000 couples from New York, where Governor David Paterson has instructed state agencies to recognize and grant benefits to gay couples who marry elsewhere, even though the Empire State does not authorize same-sex marriages.
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 19:55:49
Raine on 07/31/2008 19:55:49
That is AWESOME news! 
for Mass!
(and if I may say... for the Gov of NYS, I still contend that his move was BOLD... it was a way to finally get NY to do the right thing! )
for Mass! (and if I may say... for the Gov of NYS, I still contend that his move was BOLD... it was a way to finally get NY to do the right thing! )
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 20:02:02
TriSec on 07/31/2008 20:02:02
Now this is just absurd
A former Worcester man was arraigned today on disorderly conduct charges after he allegedly slapped a 9/11 conspiracy sticker in a plane lavatory before running off the aircraft just before takeoff.
Jason Robo had boarded Delta flight 1165 for Salt Late City just after 5 p.m. Wednesday when the crew noticed he was acting nervously, said David Procopio, a State Police spokesman. Robo was spotted entering one of the bathrooms, and, after he left, a crew member found what appeared to be a handmade sticker that read: "9/11 was an inside job.''
As other passengers continued boarding, Robo suddenly bolted off the aircraft. "I have to get off this plane,'' he allegedly said.
Police said that Robo's actions sparked a search that caused the plane to be delayed for three hours. He was arraigned in East Boston District Court on charges of interfering with aircraft operation, disorderly conduct, and disorderly conduct on a public conveyance. Robo was released without bail and ordered to return to court Aug. 19.
There was no word on whether Robo preferred oral sex to oral hygiene.
A former Worcester man was arraigned today on disorderly conduct charges after he allegedly slapped a 9/11 conspiracy sticker in a plane lavatory before running off the aircraft just before takeoff.
Jason Robo had boarded Delta flight 1165 for Salt Late City just after 5 p.m. Wednesday when the crew noticed he was acting nervously, said David Procopio, a State Police spokesman. Robo was spotted entering one of the bathrooms, and, after he left, a crew member found what appeared to be a handmade sticker that read: "9/11 was an inside job.''
As other passengers continued boarding, Robo suddenly bolted off the aircraft. "I have to get off this plane,'' he allegedly said.
Police said that Robo's actions sparked a search that caused the plane to be delayed for three hours. He was arraigned in East Boston District Court on charges of interfering with aircraft operation, disorderly conduct, and disorderly conduct on a public conveyance. Robo was released without bail and ordered to return to court Aug. 19.
There was no word on whether Robo preferred oral sex to oral hygiene.
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 20:02:32
Raine on 07/31/2008 20:02:32
Holy carp.
Exxon Mobile is reporting a 12 BILLION dollar 2nd quarter profit???
12 billion?
Exxon Mobile is reporting a 12 BILLION dollar 2nd quarter profit???
12 billion?
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:09:19
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:09:19
Back from the totally groovy used bookstore that is Chamlin Book Mine! Tis one of the best used book sellers I've ever had the pleasure of patronizing. It is 'uge and it is sufficiently ramshackle as any good used bookstore should be. Lot and lots of narrow aisles crammed full of books of all topics. Of course I went for one thing and ended up with three. Including a reviewer's copy of Neal Stephenson's new book which isn't officially out until September!
Tis one of the best used book sellers I've ever had the pleasure of patronizing. It is 'uge and it is sufficiently ramshackle as any good used bookstore should be. Lot and lots of narrow aisles crammed full of books of all topics. Of course I went for one thing and ended up with three. Including a reviewer's copy of Neal Stephenson's new book which isn't officially out until September!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:11:16
Gee no room for filthy imitation leather couch :shrug:
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:11:16
Quote by TriSec:
Now this is just absurd
A former Worcester man was arraigned today on disorderly conduct charges after he allegedly slapped a 9/11 conspiracy sticker in a plane lavatory before running off the aircraft just before takeoff.
Jason Robo had boarded Delta flight 1165 for Salt Late City just after 5 p.m. Wednesday when the crew noticed he was acting nervously, said David Procopio, a State Police spokesman. Robo was spotted entering one of the bathrooms, and, after he left, a crew member found what appeared to be a handmade sticker that read: "9/11 was an inside job.''
As other passengers continued boarding, Robo suddenly bolted off the aircraft. "I have to get off this plane,'' he allegedly said.
Police said that Robo's actions sparked a search that caused the plane to be delayed for three hours. He was arraigned in East Boston District Court on charges of interfering with aircraft operation, disorderly conduct, and disorderly conduct on a public conveyance. Robo was released without bail and ordered to return to court Aug. 19.
There was no word on whether Robo preferred oral sex to oral hygiene.
Gee no room for filthy imitation leather couch :shrug:
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 20:14:38
TriSec on 07/31/2008 20:14:38
And as TriSec's world revolves around the 108 stitch leather spheroid at this time of year...the trading deadline has passed, and Manny is still a Red Sock.
Oh, and speaking of said spheroid, I bought Javi a "logo ball" at Fenway Monday....it was made in China, of course. Curiously, it was marked "printed in the USA". And it was a Rawlings, too.
This was not an "official" league ball, presumably game balls are still made in the USA. and I'm such a baseball geek, I counted. The non-official ball had 106 stitches.
Oh, and speaking of said spheroid, I bought Javi a "logo ball" at Fenway Monday....it was made in China, of course. Curiously, it was marked "printed in the USA". And it was a Rawlings, too.
This was not an "official" league ball, presumably game balls are still made in the USA. and I'm such a baseball geek, I counted. The non-official ball had 106 stitches.
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 20:15:39
TriSec on 07/31/2008 20:15:39
Quote by Raine:
Holy carp.
Comment by 
clintster on 07/31/2008 20:16:36
Maybe he just realized he'd left his pipe up.
clintster on 07/31/2008 20:16:36
Quote by TriSec:
Now this is just absurd
A former Worcester man was arraigned today on disorderly conduct charges after he allegedly slapped a 9/11 conspiracy sticker in a plane lavatory before running off the aircraft just before takeoff.
Jason Robo had boarded Delta flight 1165 for Salt Late City just after 5 p.m. Wednesday when the crew noticed he was acting nervously, said David Procopio, a State Police spokesman. Robo was spotted entering one of the bathrooms, and, after he left, a crew member found what appeared to be a handmade sticker that read: "9/11 was an inside job.''
As other passengers continued boarding, Robo suddenly bolted off the aircraft. "I have to get off this plane,'' he allegedly said.
Police said that Robo's actions sparked a search that caused the plane to be delayed for three hours. He was arraigned in East Boston District Court on charges of interfering with aircraft operation, disorderly conduct, and disorderly conduct on a public conveyance. Robo was released without bail and ordered to return to court Aug. 19.
There was no word on whether Robo preferred oral sex to oral hygiene.
Maybe he just realized he'd left his pipe up.
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 20:18:34
Random on 07/31/2008 20:18:34
*falls asleep*
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 20:26:15
I effin' LOVE that image!
Raine on 07/31/2008 20:26:15
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
Holy carp.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:35:58
Tri, this proves exactly why the Episcopalian church is going to hell in a handbasket! First they ordained the gays, then the gay bishop, which lead to ordaining fish as priests. Now I know the Pope is supposed to be walking in the shoes of the fisherman but this is taking things way to far! :adjust mitre, vestments, stumbles to fainting couch: Mandy! A chalice of communion wine, stat!
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:35:58
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
Holy carp.
Tri, this proves exactly why the Episcopalian church is going to hell in a handbasket! First they ordained the gays, then the gay bishop, which lead to ordaining fish as priests. Now I know the Pope is supposed to be walking in the shoes of the fisherman but this is taking things way to far! :adjust mitre, vestments, stumbles to fainting couch: Mandy! A chalice of communion wine, stat!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:37:55
Was Mondee the kids' thingy at Fenway, besides having a ball made in China that was two stitches short, how was it?
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:37:55
Quote by TriSec:
And as TriSec's world revolves around the 108 stitch leather spheroid at this time of year...the trading deadline has passed, and Manny is still a Red Sock.
Oh, and speaking of said spheroid, I bought Javi a "logo ball" at Fenway Monday....it was made in China, of course. Curiously, it was marked "printed in the USA". And it was a Rawlings, too.
This was not an "official" league ball, presumably game balls are still made in the USA. and I'm such a baseball geek, I counted. The non-official ball had 106 stitches.
Was Mondee the kids' thingy at Fenway, besides having a ball made in China that was two stitches short, how was it?
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:39:53
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:39:53
For those that don't know, Mandy is the blog's official cocktail server. She has living wage and full health benefits and doesn't need to wear a demeaning, objectifying outfit while serving drinks.
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 20:43:57
Raine on 07/31/2008 20:43:57
Rach Smacks down Pat Buchanan...
Go to the 4:45 mark.. and watch.
Then go here... They are censoring the good doctor.
Go to the 4:45 mark.. and watch.
Then go here... They are censoring the good doctor.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:57:31
Game, set & match to the good Doctor. Boy is really well informed. :sigh: :scribbles Mr Dr Maddow on notebook, surrounds it with hearts:
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 20:57:31
Quote by Raine:
Rach Smacks down Pat Buchanan...
Go to the 4:45 mark.. and watch.
Then go here... They are censoring the good doctor.
Game, set & match to the good Doctor. Boy is really well informed. :sigh: :scribbles Mr Dr Maddow on notebook, surrounds it with hearts:
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 21:02:58
Random on 07/31/2008 21:02:58
Random confused.
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 21:13:58
Raine on 07/31/2008 21:13:58
MSNBC had withheld this segment from the MSNBC machine... I guess they didn't know that people know how to use the youtubes.
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 21:16:49
Raine on 07/31/2008 21:16:49
:thud: Randi reading the lyrics to the new Toby Keith song! HOLY SHITE!!!! it is about Lynching!
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 21:18:05
capt on 07/31/2008 21:18:05
Scientists say they've put exercise in a pill
One and two and three and four.
But does it make you sweat?
One and two and three and four.
But does it make you sweat?
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 21:20:39
Random on 07/31/2008 21:20:39
I love Maddow.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 21:21:25
:cracks gum: Sh-yah! You haven't heard them afore?
Toby Keith is tool.
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 21:21:25
Quote by Raine:
:thud: Randi reading the lyrics to the new Toby Keith song! HOLY SHITE!!!! it is about Lynching!
:cracks gum: Sh-yah! You haven't heard them afore?
Toby Keith is tool.
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 21:22:10
...What..really?
Random on 07/31/2008 21:22:10
Quote by Raine:
:thud: Randi reading the lyrics to the new Toby Keith song! HOLY SHITE!!!! it is about Lynching!
...What..really?
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 21:32:11
Raine on 07/31/2008 21:32:11
Tri, the AP is reporting that Manny is going to LA.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 21:44:44
capt on 07/31/2008 21:44:44
Andrea Mitchell Confronts McCain's Campaign Manager On 'Celebrity' Ad
Mrs. Greenspan is having none of it?
How odd, indeed.
Video at the bottom of the link. You gotta watch it.
Mrs. Greenspan is having none of it?
How odd, indeed.
Video at the bottom of the link. You gotta watch it.
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 21:45:28
...Is this a baseball thing?
Random on 07/31/2008 21:45:28
Quote by Raine:
Tri, the AP is reporting that Manny is going to LA.
...Is this a baseball thing?
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 21:51:11
Yep it is Random
Boston Globe sez yes!
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 21:51:11
Quote by Random:Quote by Raine:
Tri, the AP is reporting that Manny is going to LA.
...Is this a baseball thing?
Yep it is Random
Boston Globe sez yes!
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 22:03:21
capt on 07/31/2008 22:03:21
Obama slams McCain over oil company tax breaks
CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (AP) — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama seized on a record oil company profit to argue that rival John McCain offers only tax breaks for Big Oil and "short-term gimmicks" to consumers struggling with soaring gasoline prices.
The Illinois senator quickly incorporated news of Exxon Mobil's nearly $12 billion quarterly profit into his remarks at a town hall meeting here.
"No U.S. corporation ever made that much in a quarter," Obama said. "But while Big Oil is making record profits, you are paying record prices at the pump and our economy is leaving working people behind."
McCain's response, Obama said, is to propose a corporate tax plan that would give "$4 billion each year to the oil companies, including $1.2 billion for Exxon Mobil alone" and a gas tax holiday that Obama said would only "pad oil company profits and save you — at best — half a tank of gas" over an entire summer.
In recent days, Obama has complained that McCain is offering little of substance to voters and does little more than attack.
"All those negative ads he's running won't do a thing to lower your gas prices or lift up the debate in this country," Obama said.
Comment by leorising on 07/31/2008 22:14:11
ZOMFG ! What a great pic!
"Carpe carpum" -- seize the fish!
leorising on 07/31/2008 22:14:11
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
Holy carp.
ZOMFG ! What a great pic!
"Carpe carpum" -- seize the fish!
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 22:18:16
Carpe Dios. -- Fish God, aka Holy Carp. :-)
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 22:18:16
Quote by leorising:Quote by TriSec:Quote by Raine:
Holy carp.
ZOMFG ! What a great pic!
"Carpe carpum" -- seize the fish!
Carpe Dios. -- Fish God, aka Holy Carp. :-)
Comment by Raine on 07/31/2008 22:19:17
Raine on 07/31/2008 22:19:17
Ok, Bob and I are off to a Braves Game! 
Play nice!
Play nice!
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 22:31:40
capt on 07/31/2008 22:31:40
Have fun!
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 22:34:08
TriSec on 07/31/2008 22:34:08
Eeep!
The Braves???
One of three MLB teams I simply will not watch. (The San Francisco Baseball Giants and the Padres being the other two...)
It is official, Manny is an Ex-Sock. The Nation (mostly) breathes a sigh of relief. The 3-week tailspin the team has been in has pretty much coincided with Manny's latest tantrum. It's 2004 all over again, when we went through this with Nomar.
I am very glad he's going to the NL; the one thing I hate is traded or unsigned players landing in the AL and coming back to burn us. ("How Come We Don't Get Players Like That?, a phrase coined by ex-WBZ sportscaster Bob Lobel)
Anyway....it'll take a few days for this all to settle down.
The Braves???
One of three MLB teams I simply will not watch. (The San Francisco Baseball Giants and the Padres being the other two...)
It is official, Manny is an Ex-Sock. The Nation (mostly) breathes a sigh of relief. The 3-week tailspin the team has been in has pretty much coincided with Manny's latest tantrum. It's 2004 all over again, when we went through this with Nomar.
I am very glad he's going to the NL; the one thing I hate is traded or unsigned players landing in the AL and coming back to burn us. ("How Come We Don't Get Players Like That?, a phrase coined by ex-WBZ sportscaster Bob Lobel)
Anyway....it'll take a few days for this all to settle down.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 22:39:41
capt on 07/31/2008 22:39:41
Republicans are Disturbed, Skeptical and Saddened after Viewing New John McCain Ad
This seems at odds with the M$M narrative.
Flemington, NJ, July 31, 2008 – Results of a national study conducted today among 320 Americans revealed that a majority of Republicans (61%), reported that they were disturbed, skeptical and saddened after viewing a new ad by John McCain, which likens Barack Obama to Britney Spears and Paris Hilton.
This seems at odds with the M$M narrative.
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 22:40:52
Psst, Tri they live in Atlanta. The Braves as evil as they are, are the only game in town. With any luck the Cards will win.
Oh boy the Braves do suck this year don't they?
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 22:40:52
Quote by TriSec:
Eeep!
The Braves???
One of three MLB teams I simply will not watch. (The San Francisco Baseball Giants and the Padres being the other two...)
It is official, Manny is an Ex-Sock. The Nation (mostly) breathes a sigh of relief. The 3-week tailspin the team has been in has pretty much coincided with Manny's latest tantrum. It's 2004 all over again, when we went through this with Nomar.
I am very glad he's going to the NL; the one thing I hate is traded or unsigned players landing in the AL and coming back to burn us. ("How Come We Don't Get Players Like That?, a phrase coined by ex-WBZ sportscaster Bob Lobel)
Anyway....it'll take a few days for this all to settle down.
Psst, Tri they live in Atlanta. The Braves as evil as they are, are the only game in town. With any luck the Cards will win.
Oh boy the Braves do suck this year don't they?
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 22:43:17
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 22:43:17
Tri why the enmity to the Giants and Padres? Were you frightened at an early age?
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 22:46:41
capt on 07/31/2008 22:46:41
Baseball sucks!
Comment by leorising on 07/31/2008 22:53:39
leorising on 07/31/2008 22:53:39
I have to admit, I like baseball, but I've been off of it for the last decade or so, because there is no Baseball Commissioner. I swear, half the crap they have at the end of the year is all planned -- gee, let's make sure a usually-crappy team makes it into the playoffs to keep interest...I dunno. I don't trust anyone who isn't overseen these days, and by a reliable overseer at that.
I will, however, watch the last 3-4 innings of a playoff game, because that's where they play real baseball. ^_^
I will, however, watch the last 3-4 innings of a playoff game, because that's where they play real baseball. ^_^
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 22:54:35
Tri and might have to take you out behind the blog for that one! :modbat:
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 22:54:35
Quote by capt:
Baseball sucks!
Tri and might have to take you out behind the blog for that one! :modbat:
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 23:02:35
capt on 07/31/2008 23:02:35
You are welcome to try.
I quit baseball when they decided to strike TWICE.
Screw them. I will never return to a sport where the millionaires are suing the millionaires while nixing a world effin series.
I was a true fan and they sent one too many FU's my way. I used to talk to the pitchers in the bull pen at Dodger statium. I used to know the stats of most of the players. I used to watch all regular season games.
I still watch the world series but that is about it - regular season baseball SUCKS large donkey parts in Hades (imo)
I'll meet ya both out back, you might want to bring a few more of you'alls - I have a little experience with your kind . . .
I quit baseball when they decided to strike TWICE.
Screw them. I will never return to a sport where the millionaires are suing the millionaires while nixing a world effin series.
I was a true fan and they sent one too many FU's my way. I used to talk to the pitchers in the bull pen at Dodger statium. I used to know the stats of most of the players. I used to watch all regular season games.
I still watch the world series but that is about it - regular season baseball SUCKS large donkey parts in Hades (imo)
I'll meet ya both out back, you might want to bring a few more of you'alls - I have a little experience with your kind . . .
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 23:04:29
capt on 07/31/2008 23:04:29
leorising!
HOWZIT!
HOWZIT!
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 23:07:14
Capt, so nice to see you have gotten over your abused spouse syndrome so well. Alas I wish I could say the same thing. The shit all over me and I keep coming back for more.
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 23:07:14
Quote by capt:
You are welcome to try.
I quit baseball when they decided to strike TWICE.
Screw them. I will never return to a sport where the millionaires are suing the millionaires while nixing a world effin series.
I was a true fan and they sent one too many FU's my way. I used to talk to the pitchers in the bull pen at Dodger statium. I used to know the stats of most of the players. I used to watch all regular season games.
I still watch the world series but that is about it - regular season baseball SUCKS large donkey parts in Hades (imo)
I'll meet ya both out back, you might want to bring a few more of you'alls - I have a little experience with your kind . . .
Capt, so nice to see you have gotten over your abused spouse syndrome so well. Alas I wish I could say the same thing. The shit all over me and I keep coming back for more.
Comment by leorising on 07/31/2008 23:07:55
leorising on 07/31/2008 23:07:55
capt, I saw John Stewart do the "don't ask, don't tell" bit. Hilarious! Poor Ellen Donnelly apparently couldn't say anything that sounded remotely sensible. "The military doesn't do things halfway", "coming and going", oh, and the one that sent me into convulsions of hilarity, "passive-aggressive behavior" 
-- all while the pink triangle in her top mocked her shamelessly.
What a great time to be a political comedian in America! Unfortunately, not such a great time to actually be American...
-- all while the pink triangle in her top mocked her shamelessly.What a great time to be a political comedian in America! Unfortunately, not such a great time to actually be American...
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 23:15:03
Random on 07/31/2008 23:15:03
Stop squabling...Baseball sucks as much as football.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 23:16:31
capt on 07/31/2008 23:16:31
I was actually angry with baseball in general for many years.
I no longer get upset - but am no longer a sports fan of any sort. Baseball was my game.
It was their loss, seriously the NFL was nothing until "Monday Night Football" and that was made popular by angry baseball fans looking for something else after they cancelled the World Series. I know most of my friends that were baseball fans went to basketball or football for that very reason.
I no longer get upset - but am no longer a sports fan of any sort. Baseball was my game.
It was their loss, seriously the NFL was nothing until "Monday Night Football" and that was made popular by angry baseball fans looking for something else after they cancelled the World Series. I know most of my friends that were baseball fans went to basketball or football for that very reason.
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 23:22:55
Random on 07/31/2008 23:22:55
Random believes the only real sport is the sport of numbers.
*currently burried neck deep in poll results*
*currently burried neck deep in poll results*
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 23:23:12
The hatred of the Padres clearly comes from fear at an early age. Might I suggest that perhaps Tri is catholic, or was as a child? Where might the fear of padres come from, hmmm?
As to the Giants, one can only assume his priest was extremely well endowed?
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 23:23:12
Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri why the enmity to the Giants and Padres? Were you frightened at an early age?
The hatred of the Padres clearly comes from fear at an early age. Might I suggest that perhaps Tri is catholic, or was as a child? Where might the fear of padres come from, hmmm?
As to the Giants, one can only assume his priest was extremely well endowed?
Comment by liam1965 on 07/31/2008 23:28:11
liam1965 on 07/31/2008 23:28:11
I was a Mets fan through 1986, but then I lost interest. It was nice when I didn't have to worry when my team didn't do well because I didn't EXPECT them to do well.
Then 1986 came along and they won, and suddenly I cared. They still mostly sucked, but I cared, and that hurt. So I stopped.
I'm still a big Giants fan, though. Not the baseball Giants, the football Giants. Superbowl Champs, and the only team to beat the unstoppable Patriots last year!
Woo woo!
(Ahem)
Then 1986 came along and they won, and suddenly I cared. They still mostly sucked, but I cared, and that hurt. So I stopped.
I'm still a big Giants fan, though. Not the baseball Giants, the football Giants. Superbowl Champs, and the only team to beat the unstoppable Patriots last year!
Woo woo!
(Ahem)
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 23:28:15
I think the Giants fear comes from behing forced to watch that bad movie with Rick morranis and Al Bundy.
Random on 07/31/2008 23:28:15
Quote by liam1965:Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri why the enmity to the Giants and Padres? Were you frightened at an early age?
The hatred of the Padres clearly comes from fear at an early age. Might I suggest that perhaps Tri is catholic, or was as a child? Where might the fear of padres come from, hmmm?
As to the Giants, one can only assume his priest was extremely well endowed?
I think the Giants fear comes from behing forced to watch that bad movie with Rick morranis and Al Bundy.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 23:35:58
capt on 07/31/2008 23:35:58
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 23:37:32
Or one too many episodes of "Land of the Lost?"
capt on 07/31/2008 23:37:32
Quote by Random:
I think the Giants fear comes from behing forced to watch that bad movie with Rick morranis and Al Bundy.
Or one too many episodes of "Land of the Lost?"
Comment by Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 23:40:43
Yeah you can keep going with that one. I too hate the Pats with the white heat of 10,000 suns going super nova at the same time.
Since your coach has a still has a house here, it was as if the Jags had won. We are weird that way. Anything that can connect something to Florida, we grab it.
Mondobubba on 07/31/2008 23:40:43
Quote by liam1965:
I was a Mets fan through 1986, but then I lost interest. It was nice when I didn't have to worry when my team didn't do well because I didn't EXPECT them to do well.
Then 1986 came along and they won, and suddenly I cared. They still mostly sucked, but I cared, and that hurt. So I stopped.
I'm still a big Giants fan, though. Not the baseball Giants, the football Giants. Superbowl Champs, and the only team to beat the unstoppable Patriots last year!
Woo woo!
(Ahem)
Yeah you can keep going with that one. I too hate the Pats with the white heat of 10,000 suns going super nova at the same time.
Since your coach has a still has a house here, it was as if the Jags had won. We are weird that way. Anything that can connect something to Florida, we grab it.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 23:43:24
capt on 07/31/2008 23:43:24
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 23:46:54
Random on 07/31/2008 23:46:54
Random Amusing anecdont.
While Watching that "Don't ask Don't tell" Daily show my mind wandered back to a truly horrid mini-series titled andromeda strain. I'm not particularly sure, but i think it had to do with that bad psuedo joke in the...thing "You don't ask, I won't tell".
Then i started to get depressed because they turned one of Random's favorite Chricton stories into a piece of shit. And as Random contemplated ending it all, his mind wandered again, this time to Mythbusters, as it so often does when Random finds logisitcal problems in...things. brought to mind where they proved that you could use a photocopy of someone's thump print to get passed a print scanner.
This made Random Laugh and finally put down the gun where he then went to watch T.V.
While Watching that "Don't ask Don't tell" Daily show my mind wandered back to a truly horrid mini-series titled andromeda strain. I'm not particularly sure, but i think it had to do with that bad psuedo joke in the...thing "You don't ask, I won't tell".
Then i started to get depressed because they turned one of Random's favorite Chricton stories into a piece of shit. And as Random contemplated ending it all, his mind wandered again, this time to Mythbusters, as it so often does when Random finds logisitcal problems in...things. brought to mind where they proved that you could use a photocopy of someone's thump print to get passed a print scanner.
This made Random Laugh and finally put down the gun where he then went to watch T.V.
Comment by capt on 07/31/2008 23:47:08
capt on 07/31/2008 23:47:08
Speaking of Florida . . .
Florida
Quinnipiac. 7/23-29. Likely voters. MoE 2.8% (6/19-16 results)
McCain ® 44 (43)
Obama (D) 46 (47)
Woah, with this poll, Obama has actually edged into the tightest of "leads" in Florida in the Pollster.com composite: Obama 45.7, McCain, 45.3. Check out the trend graph:
Kos HERE
Florida is in play? Wow! How cool is that?
Florida
Quinnipiac. 7/23-29. Likely voters. MoE 2.8% (6/19-16 results)
McCain ® 44 (43)
Obama (D) 46 (47)
Woah, with this poll, Obama has actually edged into the tightest of "leads" in Florida in the Pollster.com composite: Obama 45.7, McCain, 45.3. Check out the trend graph:
Kos HERE
Florida is in play? Wow! How cool is that?
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 23:55:25
The Giants are a current phenomenon, mostly thanks to Mr. Bonds. The Padres always struck me as a dour, colorless team. (re: boring like the Braves)
I think we've had this discussion previously...after the Local Nine, I'll check in on the Sith to see what they're up to, then in no particular order come the Reds, Cubs, Cards, and Dodgers.
And my, do the Reds suck this year. Griffey went to the White Sox today, I hope they make a run and give him a chance at the big game.
TriSec on 07/31/2008 23:55:25
Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri why the enmity to the Giants and Padres? Were you frightened at an early age?
The Giants are a current phenomenon, mostly thanks to Mr. Bonds. The Padres always struck me as a dour, colorless team. (re: boring like the Braves)
I think we've had this discussion previously...after the Local Nine, I'll check in on the Sith to see what they're up to, then in no particular order come the Reds, Cubs, Cards, and Dodgers.
And my, do the Reds suck this year. Griffey went to the White Sox today, I hope they make a run and give him a chance at the big game.
Comment by TriSec on 07/31/2008 23:56:46
TriSec on 07/31/2008 23:56:46
And oh, my did the sky just split open and give us a spectacular sunset...like somebody just poured orange Kool-Aid on the clouds...
Comment by Random on 07/31/2008 23:56:58
Capt...Don't try to steal Random's gig by posting fancy graphs and stuff...I posted a graph of Florida tied yesterday.
Random on 07/31/2008 23:56:58
Quote by capt:
Speaking of Florida . . .
Florida
Quinnipiac. 7/23-29. Likely voters. MoE 2.8% (6/19-16 results)
McCain ® 44 (43)
Obama (D) 46 (47)
Woah, with this poll, Obama has actually edged into the tightest of "leads" in Florida in the Pollster.com composite: Obama 45.7, McCain, 45.3. Check out the trend graph:
Kos HERE
Florida is in play? Wow! How cool is that?
Capt...Don't try to steal Random's gig by posting fancy graphs and stuff...I posted a graph of Florida tied yesterday.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 00:03:35
Dour and colorless, yes that would describe the Padres. The Braves, no not so much. Soulless, robotic, boring but not dour or colorless. They are the robo ball team second only in their evil to the NY Sith.
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 00:03:35
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri why the enmity to the Giants and Padres? Were you frightened at an early age?
The Giants are a current phenomenon, mostly thanks to Mr. Bonds. The Padres always struck me as a dour, colorless team. (re: boring like the Braves)
I think we've had this discussion previously...after the Local Nine, I'll check in on the Sith to see what they're up to, then in no particular order come the Reds, Cubs, Cards, and Dodgers.
And my, do the Reds suck this year. Griffey went to the White Sox today, I hope they make a run and give him a chance at the big game.
Dour and colorless, yes that would describe the Padres. The Braves, no not so much. Soulless, robotic, boring but not dour or colorless. They are the robo ball team second only in their evil to the NY Sith.
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 00:07:12
You'll have to ask your cable company to add WGN since I don't think any cable systems in the Boston area currently carry it (although RCN and Verizon do).
livingonli on 08/01/2008 00:07:12
Quote by TriSec:Quote by Mondobubba:
Tri why the enmity to the Giants and Padres? Were you frightened at an early age?
The Giants are a current phenomenon, mostly thanks to Mr. Bonds. The Padres always struck me as a dour, colorless team. (re: boring like the Braves)
I think we've had this discussion previously...after the Local Nine, I'll check in on the Sith to see what they're up to, then in no particular order come the Reds, Cubs, Cards, and Dodgers.
And my, do the Reds suck this year. Griffey went to the White Sox today, I hope they make a run and give him a chance at the big game.
You'll have to ask your cable company to add WGN since I don't think any cable systems in the Boston area currently carry it (although RCN and Verizon do).
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/01/2008 00:10:44
trojanrabbit on 08/01/2008 00:10:44
For those in the Boston area, Bob Lobel is subbing (playing DJ) for Dale Dorman on WODS (103.3) on Friday from about 6AM to 9AM as he also did this morning. I recorded it but haven't had the chance to listen, I'm sure there will be Manny talk on Friday as he discussed his career earlier today.
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/01/2008 00:17:41
trojanrabbit on 08/01/2008 00:17:41
Ugh, this computer room at home is miserably hot (87). I still have to download the Stephcast for today and put a bunch of stuff on the wife's player and then set the PC to record a broadcast for midnight. The kitties are stopping by every few minutes to pick at the food bowl and ram my legs looking for attention.
The local Fox outlet is supposed to be in our area tomorry morning as part of their "Zip Trips" where they spotlight a different town each week so it's slightly possible Mrs Rabbit will get some airtime with the other denizens of Millis.
The local Fox outlet is supposed to be in our area tomorry morning as part of their "Zip Trips" where they spotlight a different town each week so it's slightly possible Mrs Rabbit will get some airtime with the other denizens of Millis.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 00:21:12
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 00:21:12
Ya know there better not be any preemption of KO on the Networks of NBC during the Olympics.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 00:25:52
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 00:25:52
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 00:30:17
capt on 08/01/2008 00:30:17
Email from Barack:
A few hours ago John McCain, the same man who just months ago promised to run a "respectful campaign," said he is "proud" of his latest attack ad.
That's the one attacking your enthusiasm, comparing me to Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, and making false claims about my energy plan.
Now, we're facing some serious challenges in this country -- our economy is struggling, energy costs are skyrocketing, and families don't have health care.
Given the seriousness of these issues, you'd think we'd be having a serious debate. But instead, John McCain is running an expensive, negative campaign against us. Each day brings a desperate new set of attacks.
And they're not just attacking me. They're attacking you.
They're mocking the desire of millions of Americans to step up and take ownership of the political process.
They're trying to convince you that your enthusiasm won't amount to anything -- that the people you persuade, the phone calls you make, the donations you give, the doors you knock on are all an illusion. They believe that in this election the same old smears and negative attacks will prevail again.
They're wrong.
And right now, we have a few hours left to prove them wrong in a very concrete way.
Can you make a donation right now before the July fundraising deadline at midnight tonight?
Show the strength of our movement for change.
Thank you,
Barack
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 00:33:08
:bong: :?:
Dude, been busy, but yah, pretty much. :metal:
*passes*
Light? :lol:
leorising on 08/01/2008 00:33:08
Quote by capt:
leorising!
HOWZIT!
:bong: :?:
Dude, been busy, but yah, pretty much. :metal:
*passes*
Light? :lol:
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 00:42:30
Busy can be a good thing - here's a bic I always have extras . .
capt on 08/01/2008 00:42:30
Quote by leorising:Quote by capt:
leorising!
HOWZIT!
:bong: :?:
Dude, been busy, but yah, pretty much. :metal:
*passes*
Light? :lol:
Busy can be a good thing - here's a bic I always have extras . .
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 00:44:00
So...I'm off doing real work for hte blog, and you two are off smoking dope? Shameful.
*takes dope* You'll get it bcak when you behave.
Random on 08/01/2008 00:44:00
Quote by leorising:Quote by capt:
leorising!
HOWZIT!
:bong: :?:
Dude, been busy, but yah, pretty much. :metal:
*passes*
Light? :lol:
So...I'm off doing real work for hte blog, and you two are off smoking dope? Shameful.
*takes dope* You'll get it bcak when you behave.
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 00:45:59
capt on 08/01/2008 00:45:59
Comment by MMB on 08/01/2008 00:46:18
Capt my Dad who will be 75 in a couple of weeks would agree with you he used to love baseball until the strikes then he lost all respect for it.
MMB on 08/01/2008 00:46:18
Quote by capt:
You are welcome to try.
I quit baseball when they decided to strike TWICE.
Screw them. I will never return to a sport where the millionaires are suing the millionaires while nixing a world effin series.
I was a true fan and they sent one too many FU's my way. I used to talk to the pitchers in the bull pen at Dodger statium. I used to know the stats of most of the players. I used to watch all regular season games.
I still watch the world series but that is about it - regular season baseball SUCKS large donkey parts in Hades (imo)
I'll meet ya both out back, you might want to bring a few more of you'alls - I have a little experience with your kind . . .
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 00:46:57
leorising on 08/01/2008 00:46:57
From the NASA link below:
Is it because I'm high that that sounds really woo-woo scifi to me?
Am I so behind the tmes, as well? :cry:
Am I the here? *reads again* Whoa. *quietly freaks out*
Fossil heading for the smoking deck. Gang way, comin' thru...
"I can now say I'm the first mission to Mars to touch and then taste the water," came the message from Phoenix's Twitter feed yesterday.
Is it because I'm high that that sounds really woo-woo scifi to me?
Am I so behind the tmes, as well? :cry:Am I the
here? *reads again* Whoa. *quietly freaks out*Fossil heading for the smoking deck. Gang way, comin' thru...
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 00:51:20
capt on 08/01/2008 00:51:20
RACE SHOCKER: McCain Accuses Obama of Shamefully Being Colored
There is SHOCKING news from the campaign trail today as the John McCain Presidency has angrily lashed out at Barack Obama for being black. “My opponent is half-colored,” McCain said today from one of his mansions, “And worse, he claims the coloreds have not been president before. This is shameful, shame on this uppity colored and his race-baiting. Go back to Africa, Osama Spears.”
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 00:52:20
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 00:52:20
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 00:52:55
I think I was hanging out with some guys that were older than I was . . .
A bunch of us took it personally. We loved it too much, I guess.
capt on 08/01/2008 00:52:55
Quote by MMB:Capt my Dad who will be 75 in a couple of weeks would agree with you he used to love baseball until the strikes then he lost all respect for it.Quote by capt:
You are welcome to try.
I quit baseball when they decided to strike TWICE.
Screw them. I will never return to a sport where the millionaires are suing the millionaires while nixing a world effin series.
I was a true fan and they sent one too many FU's my way. I used to talk to the pitchers in the bull pen at Dodger statium. I used to know the stats of most of the players. I used to watch all regular season games.
I still watch the world series but that is about it - regular season baseball SUCKS large donkey parts in Hades (imo)
I'll meet ya both out back, you might want to bring a few more of you'alls - I have a little experience with your kind . . .
I think I was hanging out with some guys that were older than I was . . .
A bunch of us took it personally. We loved it too much, I guess.
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 00:53:38
YOINK!
*snatches medicine back*
Fiend! Part a cripple from her medicine, will you? Don't make me fuck you up...
*bitchslaps, hard* :punch:
Dumbass!
{/Jeff Dunham}
leorising on 08/01/2008 00:53:38
Quote by Random:Quote by leorising:Quote by capt:
leorising!
HOWZIT!
:bong: :?:
Dude, been busy, but yah, pretty much. :metal:
*passes*
Light? :lol:
So...I'm off doing real work for hte blog, and you two are off smoking dope? Shameful.
*takes dope* You'll get it bcak when you behave.
YOINK!
*snatches medicine back*
Fiend! Part a cripple from her medicine, will you? Don't make me fuck you up...
*bitchslaps, hard* :punch:
Dumbass!
{/Jeff Dunham}
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 00:54:11
capt on 08/01/2008 00:54:11
You know water on Mars means a strong possibility of life on Mars (which I expect will be confirmed)
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 00:57:54
leorising on 08/01/2008 00:57:54
Quote by leorising:
From the NASA link below:"I can now say I'm the first mission to Mars to touch and then taste the water," came the message from Phoenix's Twitter feed yesterday.
Is it because I'm high that that sounds really woo-woo scifi to me?
Am I the
Okay, perhaps to clarify: it's not the water that's freakin' me out, it's the ROBOT saying he TASTED something. That is freaky, to me.
Anyone? Bueller? *crickets chirp*
Fossil heading for the smoking deck. Gang way, comin' thru...
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 01:00:15
leorising on 08/01/2008 01:00:15
Off to the penalty box, now, for formatting errors and spamming the list. Slowing my ass down now, sorry...
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 01:02:39
Random is diety of this blog.
*snatches away again*
So don't make me smote you.
Dumbass
{/Walter}
Random on 08/01/2008 01:02:39
Quote by leorising:Quote by Random:Quote by leorising:Quote by capt:
leorising!
HOWZIT!
:bong: :?:
Dude, been busy, but yah, pretty much. :metal:
*passes*
Light? :lol:
So...I'm off doing real work for hte blog, and you two are off smoking dope? Shameful.
*takes dope* You'll get it bcak when you behave.
YOINK!
*snatches medicine back*
Fiend! Part a cripple from her medicine, will you? Don't make me fuck you up...
*bitchslaps, hard* :punch:
Dumbass!
{/Jeff Dunham}
Random is diety of this blog.
*snatches away again*
So don't make me smote you.
Dumbass
{/Walter}
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 01:05:05
capt on 08/01/2008 01:05:05
Random can snatch mine, I ALWAYS have some back-up hidden away for emergencies. . .
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 01:07:40
Random is all knowing.
*smotes Capt's back-up*
Random on 08/01/2008 01:07:40
Quote by capt:
Random can snatch mine, I ALWAYS have some back-up hidden away for emergencies. . .
Random is all knowing.
*smotes Capt's back-up*
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 01:08:36
leorising on 08/01/2008 01:08:36
Random, dude, I'm legal. Gimme. Grrr.
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 01:12:44
no need to get angry...just having some fun...
*passes *
Random on 08/01/2008 01:12:44
Quote by leorising:
Random, dude, I'm legal. Gimme. Grrr.
no need to get angry...just having some fun...
*passes
*
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 01:14:45
TriSec on 08/01/2008 01:14:45
Oh, the mods head to a baseball game and this is the result???
:modbat:
:stomps foot:
Respect my athoritay!
:modbat:
:stomps foot:
Respect my athoritay!
Comment by liam1965 on 08/01/2008 01:16:13
liam1965 on 08/01/2008 01:16:13
Am I the only one here who DOESN'T smoke the shit?
Really?
Am I that square?
Really?
Am I that square?
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 01:16:22
capt on 08/01/2008 01:16:22
McCain’s Gaffe, on California’s Ban on Trans Fats
“I CONGRATULATE GOVERNOR SCHWARZENEGGER IN LEADING HIS STATE TO BECOME THE FIRST TO BAN OVERWEIGHT WOMEN WITH PENISES.”
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 01:17:40
Random no do drugs.
And Random is the squarest of them all.
Even Squares want nutin to do with me.
Random on 08/01/2008 01:17:40
Quote by liam1965:
Am I the only one here who DOESN'T smoke the shit?
Really?
Am I that square?
Random no do drugs.
And Random is the squarest of them all.
Even Squares want nutin to do with me.
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 01:18:59
leorising on 08/01/2008 01:18:59
Breaking news: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/01/washington/01SUBPOENA.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
White House Aids Can Be Subpoenaed
Party!
White House Aids Can Be Subpoenaed
Party!
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 01:20:43
Thank you, Random! *snoogles*
leorising on 08/01/2008 01:20:43
Quote by Random:Quote by leorising:
Random, dude, I'm legal. Gimme. Grrr.
no need to get angry...just having some fun...
*passes
Thank you, Random! *snoogles*
Comment by liam1965 on 08/01/2008 01:21:23
liam1965 on 08/01/2008 01:21:23
Speaking of weed, someone must be smoking some.
Check this out at Amazon, the current "Gold Box" special:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox/ref=cs_top_nav_gb27
"BioPet DNA Breed Identification", as near as I can tell it's a DNA test for your dog, to identify what all breeds make it up...
But the weed part comes in when you see the category: This item is categorized as "Kitchen & Dining".
So, what, while I'm slicing off a small piece of my dog to be tested, I should also lop off a steak and have some dinner?
WTF?
Check this out at Amazon, the current "Gold Box" special:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/goldbox/ref=cs_top_nav_gb27
"BioPet DNA Breed Identification", as near as I can tell it's a DNA test for your dog, to identify what all breeds make it up...
But the weed part comes in when you see the category: This item is categorized as "Kitchen & Dining".
So, what, while I'm slicing off a small piece of my dog to be tested, I should also lop off a steak and have some dinner?
WTF?
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 01:23:55
O.O A GIRL TOUCHED ME!
*runs around blog*
Random on 08/01/2008 01:23:55
Quote by leorising:Quote by Random:Quote by leorising:
Random, dude, I'm legal. Gimme. Grrr.
no need to get angry...just having some fun...
*passes
Thank you, Random! *snoogles*
O.O A GIRL TOUCHED ME!
*runs around blog*
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 01:28:05
I'm pretty much that way. The social misfit days of my younger years meant I never hung out with the cool kids.
livingonli on 08/01/2008 01:28:05
Quote by liam1965:
Am I the only one here who DOESN'T smoke the shit?
Really?
Am I that square?
I'm pretty much that way. The social misfit days of my younger years meant I never hung out with the cool kids.
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 01:28:25
Liam,
I haven't had alcohol in 22+ years. I didn't smoke dope for 21 of those years. I became legal in Oregon at exactly 21 years clean, and smoked up that night. I got legal because it's one of the few drugs that provides pain relief for fibromyalgia. (There's no way you could know any of that, and I don't really know if you even give a crap, but that's the story.)
By all of which I mean to say, I don't think you're square. I actually prefer to be straight, most of the time. And I daresay there are many non-indulgers here, as well.
leorising on 08/01/2008 01:28:25
Quote by liam1965:
Am I the only one here who DOESN'T smoke the shit?
Really?
Am I that square?
Liam,
I haven't had alcohol in 22+ years. I didn't smoke dope for 21 of those years. I became legal in Oregon at exactly 21 years clean, and smoked up that night. I got legal because it's one of the few drugs that provides pain relief for fibromyalgia. (There's no way you could know any of that, and I don't really know if you even give a crap, but that's the story.)By all of which I mean to say, I don't think you're square. I actually prefer to be straight, most of the time. And I daresay there are many non-indulgers here, as well.
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 01:29:24
Random on 08/01/2008 01:29:24
Official Blog Poll Random wasting his time McCain/Obama Matchup Update: 11 More states to go. Wish me luck, or put me out my misery
Comment by TriSec on 08/01/2008 01:31:48
TriSec on 08/01/2008 01:31:48
Ah, I like my distilled beverages, but nothing harder than that.
My brother sold the stuff for years, I always had access to a smoking piece, but I was never much interested.
My brother sold the stuff for years, I always had access to a smoking piece, but I was never much interested.
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 01:32:47
*cowers* Yessir! Roger wilco! 
leorising on 08/01/2008 01:32:47
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, the mods head to a baseball game and this is the result???
:modbat:
:stomps foot:
Respect my athoritay!
*cowers* Yessir! Roger wilco!
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 01:35:55
leorising on 08/01/2008 01:35:55
Heh heh heh, I love that Cartmann pic...
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 01:36:10
capt on 08/01/2008 01:36:10
You're with the cool kids now so . . .
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 01:36:18
I'll Ro-Sham-Bo you for it.
Random on 08/01/2008 01:36:18
Quote by TriSec:
Oh, the mods head to a baseball game and this is the result???
:modbat:
:stomps foot:
Respect my athoritay!
I'll Ro-Sham-Bo you for it.
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 01:37:11
livingonli on 08/01/2008 01:37:11
You wouldn't want to see TriSec when he's angry.
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 01:39:01
*dances* 
Okay, done spamming now. For a while. Again. :redface:
leorising on 08/01/2008 01:39:01
“The executive’s current claim of absolute immunity from compelled Congressional process for senior presidential aides is without any support in the case law,” Judge John D. Bates ruled in United States District Court here.
Unless overturned on appeal, a former White House counsel, Harriet E. Miers, and the current White House chief of staff, Joshua B. Bolten, would be required to cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee, which has been investigating the controversial dismissal of the federal prosecutors in 2006.
*dances*
Okay, done spamming now. For a while. Again. :redface:
Comment by trojanrabbit on 08/01/2008 01:40:05
trojanrabbit on 08/01/2008 01:40:05
Another "square" here, Liam. Never touched drugs of any kind, very seldom drink alcohol.
Comment by Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 01:40:57
Mondobubba on 08/01/2008 01:40:57
The weed heads are busted by the adults.
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 01:42:16
capt on 08/01/2008 01:42:16
Bush’s ‘Mission Accomplished’ Finally Achieved: Iraq in Better Shape Than U.S.
By Don Davis
“THE PRICE OF GAS IN BAGHDAD IS LOWER, FEWER PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES, THEIR MINISTRY OF JUSTICE IS LESS POLITICIZED, AND THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY HAS AN ‘EXIT PLAN’ FOR U.S. TROOPS.”
By Don Davis
“THE PRICE OF GAS IN BAGHDAD IS LOWER, FEWER PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES, THEIR MINISTRY OF JUSTICE IS LESS POLITICIZED, AND THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY HAS AN ‘EXIT PLAN’ FOR U.S. TROOPS.”
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 01:42:58
Oh, by His Noodly Appendage, is that a Rob Liefeld? The muscles, the muscles that don't exist... *shivers*
leorising on 08/01/2008 01:42:58
Quote by livingonli:
You wouldn't want to see TriSec when he's angry.
Oh, by His Noodly Appendage, is that a Rob Liefeld? The muscles, the muscles that don't exist... *shivers*
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 01:50:59
It's only spamming if you promote male enhancement or helping an exiled African dictator get his money by giving him access to your bank account.
livingonli on 08/01/2008 01:50:59
Quote by leorising:“The executive’s current claim of absolute immunity from compelled Congressional process for senior presidential aides is without any support in the case law,” Judge John D. Bates ruled in United States District Court here.
Unless overturned on appeal, a former White House counsel, Harriet E. Miers, and the current White House chief of staff, Joshua B. Bolten, would be required to cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee, which has been investigating the controversial dismissal of the federal prosecutors in 2006.
*dances*
Okay, done spamming now. For a while. Again. :redface:
It's only spamming if you promote male enhancement or helping an exiled African dictator get his money by giving him access to your bank account.
Comment by Random on 08/01/2008 02:30:24
While we're on the subject order now and get6 inches 12 inches added onto your man hood by giving this African Dictator your bank account.
And as a special bonus, if your account is one of those special few to be selected, you will win 1 Million dollars.
Random on 08/01/2008 02:30:24
Quote by livingonli:Quote by leorising:“The executive’s current claim of absolute immunity from compelled Congressional process for senior presidential aides is without any support in the case law,” Judge John D. Bates ruled in United States District Court here.
Unless overturned on appeal, a former White House counsel, Harriet E. Miers, and the current White House chief of staff, Joshua B. Bolten, would be required to cooperate with the House Judiciary Committee, which has been investigating the controversial dismissal of the federal prosecutors in 2006.
*dances*
Okay, done spamming now. For a while. Again. :redface:
It's only spamming if you promote male enhancement or helping an exiled African dictator get his money by giving him access to your bank account.
While we're on the subject order now and get
And as a special bonus, if your account is one of those special few to be selected, you will win 1 Million dollars.
Comment by leorising on 08/01/2008 02:59:29
leorising on 08/01/2008 02:59:29
Gotta take off now, guys. Have a great evening/night/morning/whatever! ^_^
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 03:09:06
capt on 08/01/2008 03:09:06
Researchers at MIT Develop New Water-Splitting Catalyst That Works Under Benign Conditions; a “Giant Leap”
It won't be long. People will look back on this time as quaint - when people burned coal and oil - dinosaur juice. Kinda like before electricity we burned gaslights.
It won't be long. People will look back on this time as quaint - when people burned coal and oil - dinosaur juice. Kinda like before electricity we burned gaslights.
Comment by BobR on 08/01/2008 03:18:48
I guess I must be an atheist then :nana:
BobR on 08/01/2008 03:18:48
Quote by Random:
Random is diety of this blog.
*snatches away again*
So don't make me smote you.
Dumbass
{/Walter}
I guess I must be an atheist then :nana:
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 03:20:13
HEh! you know it! I swear that was the BEST superbowl I have ever seen!
Raine: HUGE Giants fan!
Raine on 08/01/2008 03:20:13
Quote by liam1965:
I'm still a big Giants fan, though. Not the baseball Giants, the football Giants. Superbowl Champs, and the only team to beat the unstoppable Patriots last year!
Woo woo!
(Ahem)
I swear that was the BEST superbowl I have ever seen! Raine: HUGE Giants fan!
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 03:26:51
Raine on 08/01/2008 03:26:51
Hi everyone!
The game was a blast. The seats were riggin AWESOME, and I gotta say, the 30 foot tall Chik-fil-A Cow doing the tomahawk Chop, well it looks like it was doing a Zieg Heil salute.
Seriously. the cow looked like it was a nazi in a braves hat. I decided to call it Moo Kampf.
The game was a blast. The seats were riggin AWESOME, and I gotta say, the 30 foot tall Chik-fil-A Cow doing the tomahawk Chop, well it looks like it was doing a Zieg Heil salute.
Seriously. the cow looked like it was a nazi in a braves hat. I decided to call it Moo Kampf.
Comment by BobR on 08/01/2008 03:27:02
oh that's VERY cool. From what I've understood, the fuel cell technology has been doomed because it requires too much energy to split the water, thus making it an ineffective carbon-reducing technology.
This is great news.
BobR on 08/01/2008 03:27:02
Quote by capt:
Researchers at MIT Develop New Water-Splitting Catalyst That Works Under Benign Conditions; a “Giant Leap”
It won't be long. People will look back on this time as quaint - when people burned coal and oil - dinosaur juice. Kinda like before electricity we burned gaslights.
oh that's VERY cool. From what I've understood, the fuel cell technology has been doomed because it requires too much energy to split the water, thus making it an ineffective carbon-reducing technology.
This is great news.
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 03:28:54
:kickcan: I keep missing Leo! See you tomorrow! :hug:
Raine on 08/01/2008 03:28:54
Quote by leorising:
Gotta take off now, guys. Have a great evening/night/morning/whatever! ^_^
:kickcan: I keep missing Leo! See you tomorrow! :hug:
Comment by Raine on 08/01/2008 03:29:01
:kickcan: I keep missing Leo! See you tomorrow! :hug:
Raine on 08/01/2008 03:29:01
Quote by leorising:
Gotta take off now, guys. Have a great evening/night/morning/whatever! ^_^
:kickcan: I keep missing Leo! See you tomorrow! :hug:
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 03:38:24
The real beauty I see is so many possibilities in the future. Science is making huge strides. We have the first generation of PhD's that have computing power enough for better models and simulations.
How much will things change again in ten, twenty or even fifty years?
Times are a changin' (big time)
capt on 08/01/2008 03:38:24
Quote by BobR:Quote by capt:
Researchers at MIT Develop New Water-Splitting Catalyst That Works Under Benign Conditions; a “Giant Leap”
It won't be long. People will look back on this time as quaint - when people burned coal and oil - dinosaur juice. Kinda like before electricity we burned gaslights.
oh that's VERY cool. From what I've understood, the fuel cell technology has been doomed because it requires too much energy to split the water, thus making it an ineffective carbon-reducing technology.
This is great news.
The real beauty I see is so many possibilities in the future. Science is making huge strides. We have the first generation of PhD's that have computing power enough for better models and simulations.
How much will things change again in ten, twenty or even fifty years?
Times are a changin' (big time)
Comment by liam1965 on 08/01/2008 03:40:05
(Sorry for the delay, been doing other things for a while).
I wasn't truly offended, just kind of surprised at the topic of conversation. I know drugs (particularly pot) are not surprising in the generation directly preceding mine and my own, and I'm probably in the minority in not ever having tried anything more hard core than alcohol and (on two occasions when I had a really bad cough) narcotic cough syrup.
It's easy to fall into the trap of believing one’s own experience is “typical” and thus end up surprised when it turns out not to be.
As to fibromyalgia, I guess I had heard you say that before (I tend to forget who is who, in my head it was MadCabbieJan who had said that, over on SMS LB ), and I’m sorry to hear about it. I don’t begrudge you anything that helps or, in point of fact, anything that you just want to do, as long as you’re responsible about it (that is to say don’t drive under the influence, don’t rob anyone to pay for your habit, don’t get violent under the influence of your mind-alterater of choice, etc.).
If the world worked differently than it does (that is, if common sense could be applied to law, instead of having to be extremely specific and rigid in application) I’d much rather we decriminalize USAGE and move to greater enforcement of the irresponsibilities. Drink all you want, but endanger someone by getting behind the wheel and we’re taking you down, that sort of thing.
It doesn’t work, of course, because the stricter you make the laws, the more likely the policeman is going to let you off with a warning if you look down on your luck, or like doing the punishment would be an extreme hardship for you.
But the point is, I have no problem, morally with drugs.
Wow, that’s about as long as I’ve gone in a long time without cracking a joke. It wasn’t easy, let me tell you!
liam1965 on 08/01/2008 03:40:05
Quote by leorising:Quote by liam1965:
Am I the only one here who DOESN'T smoke the shit?
Really?
Am I that square?
Liam,
By all of which I mean to say, I don't think you're square. I actually prefer to be straight, most of the time. And I daresay there are many non-indulgers here, as well.
(Sorry for the delay, been doing other things for a while).
I wasn't truly offended, just kind of surprised at the topic of conversation. I know drugs (particularly pot) are not surprising in the generation directly preceding mine and my own, and I'm probably in the minority in not ever having tried anything more hard core than alcohol and (on two occasions when I had a really bad cough) narcotic cough syrup.
It's easy to fall into the trap of believing one’s own experience is “typical” and thus end up surprised when it turns out not to be.
As to fibromyalgia, I guess I had heard you say that before (I tend to forget who is who, in my head it was MadCabbieJan who had said that, over on SMS LB ), and I’m sorry to hear about it. I don’t begrudge you anything that helps or, in point of fact, anything that you just want to do, as long as you’re responsible about it (that is to say don’t drive under the influence, don’t rob anyone to pay for your habit, don’t get violent under the influence of your mind-alterater of choice, etc.).
If the world worked differently than it does (that is, if common sense could be applied to law, instead of having to be extremely specific and rigid in application) I’d much rather we decriminalize USAGE and move to greater enforcement of the irresponsibilities. Drink all you want, but endanger someone by getting behind the wheel and we’re taking you down, that sort of thing.
It doesn’t work, of course, because the stricter you make the laws, the more likely the policeman is going to let you off with a warning if you look down on your luck, or like doing the punishment would be an extreme hardship for you.
But the point is, I have no problem, morally with drugs.
Wow, that’s about as long as I’ve gone in a long time without cracking a joke. It wasn’t easy, let me tell you!
Comment by capt on 08/01/2008 03:47:34
capt on 08/01/2008 03:47:34
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
~ Hunter S. Thompson
Comment by livingonli on 08/01/2008 04:13:47
That actually sounds a little creepy.
livingonli on 08/01/2008 04:13:47
Quote by Raine:
Hi everyone!
The game was a blast. The seats were riggin AWESOME, and I gotta say, the 30 foot tall Chik-fil-A Cow doing the tomahawk Chop, well it looks like it was doing a Zieg Heil salute.
Seriously. the cow looked like it was a nazi in a braves hat. I decided to call it Moo Kampf.
That actually sounds a little creepy.