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Health Care Hijinks
Author: BobR    Date: 01/19/2011 11:43:54

Now that Congress has recovered from the Tucson shootings, it's back to business as usual. That means moving forward on their largely symbolic "Repealing the Job Folding, Spindling and Mutilating Health Care Law" act, or whatever it is they're calling it today. Speaker Boehner (R-OH) has said that the people of the country have spoken (re: the election results), and they want the law repealed.

Sadly, the people DID speak during the last election, and what they were saying is "we want jobs". It was Boehner (and the rest) that meshed that together in their imaginations their own corporate desires to revoke the health care law. Repealing the law (were it even possible) would also have a negative effect on the budget deficit, something else that voters were concerned with.

The Jobs issue is one that has had voters concerned since 2008, when the Bush-era policies of bad accounting and a laissez-faire attitude toward government regulation resulted in an economic collapse and catastrophic jobs loss. Even though job growth has been improving since then, it has not been fast enough. Recently, though, big companies are reopening shuttered plants and rehiring laid-off workers. Maybe the Republicans are only looking at small business?... well - jobs grew there too. Sure the growth is slow, but it's not negative, which is what would happen if the "Obamacare" act was murdering jobs in cold blood.

But - if you don't believe my stats (or consider them anecdotal), what about a reputable news agency like the AP? According to them, the GOP's job-killing rhetoric is just that: bunk:
"What CBO actually said is that the impact of the health care law on supply and demand for labor would be small," Alonso-Zaldivar wrote. "Most of it would come from people who no longer have to work, or can downshift to less demanding employment, because insurance will be available outside the job."

In other words, the CBO said the impact of the reforms would have a "small" impact on the labor force by diminishing the amount of work people have to do in order to obtain health care. Republican leaders instead appropriated those figures to claim the impending loss of 650,000 jobs.

Two economists at nonpartisan research institutions corroborated AP's critique: Paul Van de Water at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, and Paul Fronstin at the Employee Benefit Research Institute.

So what the bill actually does, is kill the NEED to have a job in order to get health insurance. Considering that half of the people in the US have what would be considered a "pre-existing condition", you'd think they'd WANT the health care bill in place. After all - that's one of those nasty insurance company get-out-of-jail-free cards that they implemented for themselves (and which the new law does away with). In this case, you'd be right:
On the eve of a repeal vote in the House, more Americans continue to oppose than support the health care reform law, with broad suspicions it'll hurt the economy, boost the deficit and -- by a narrower margin -- cut jobs. But repealing it is another matter.

Forty-six percent in this ABC News/Washington Post poll think the law is likely to cut jobs, 8 points more than think it'll create them. More, 54 percent think it's more apt to hurt than help the economy. And 62 percent see it as increasing rather than decreasing the federal deficit.

For all that, fewer than four in 10 -- 37 percent -- favor repealing all or parts of the law; the rest either support it, or want to wait and see. And just 18 percent favor repealing it entirely...

(bold-face mine...)

That 18 percent likely consists of Tea Partiers, uber-libertarians, and health insurance company CEOs. The sad part of it is how many people "think" things that are factually wrong. Either the bill does or doesn't decrease the deficit - this is not a matter of opinion. The non-partisan CBO has declared it decreases the deficit, so it appears that 62 percent of those polled have been told a lie and believe it. Thanks FOX News - better take that "News" part out of your name if you can't get the facts correct.

So in essence, the Republicans are spending time (and tax payer dollars) trying to pass a bill in the House that they know will fail in the Senate and/or be vetoed by President Obama, in an effort to please 18% of the electorate. Is this what America voted for?

 

40 comments (Latest Comment: 01/19/2011 21:46:31 by Raine)
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Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 14:28:01
Morning

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 14:47:49
I can't believe we are STILL having this conversation about health care.

good morning!

Comment by BobR on 01/19/2011 14:54:20
One thing I neglected to mention in the blog is that the provision is now in effect that allows partners of LGBT patients to visit them in the hospital.

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 15:18:41
Someone should remind everyone one of these conservative callers this morning that the constitution says WE the people. not I the person.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 15:30:12
Quote by Raine:
Someone should remind everyone one of these conservative callers this morning that the constitution says WE the people. not I the person.




Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 15:30:54
I already miss Speaker Pelosi.

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:00:55
So, Randall Terry is going to Primary Obama... Wait. what?



Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 16:02:57
Quote by Raine:
So, Randall Terry is going to Primary Obama... Wait. what?




been on the phone what the heck did I miss

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:11:31
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs076.snc6/168600_10150139455388745_617808744_7703549_2191331_n.jpg


Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:12:43
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
So, Randall Terry is going to Primary Obama... Wait. what?




been on the phone what the heck did I miss
They haven't mentioned it on the show yet.

I was reading this article from Politico


Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 16:15:16
okay so - if some one was going to draw the recession as a monster being chased by stick figure villagers with wine keys (corkscrews) what approach would they take - hint, hint, hint (I need help with t-shirt for this years trip - which sadly I'm not going on)

Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 16:16:01
Quote by Raine:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs076.snc6/168600_10150139455388745_617808744_7703549_2191331_n.jpg



<- what I think God is doing

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:18:13
Quote by wickedpam:
okay so - if some one was going to draw the recession as a monster being chased by stick figure villagers with wine keys (corkscrews) what approach would they take - hint, hint, hint (I need help with t-shirt for this years trip - which sadly I'm not going on)

ooh -- I like that Idea. LEt me think about this one for a few moments.

That sux that you aren't going this year.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 16:18:25
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
So, Randall Terry is going to Primary Obama... Wait. what?




been on the phone what the heck did I miss
They haven't mentioned it on the show yet.

I was reading this article from Politico



oh lord

Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 16:19:39
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
okay so - if some one was going to draw the recession as a monster being chased by stick figure villagers with wine keys (corkscrews) what approach would they take - hint, hint, hint (I need help with t-shirt for this years trip - which sadly I'm not going on)

ooh -- I like that Idea. LEt me think about this one for a few moments.

That sux that you aren't going this year.



it is, not like I wasn't invited though - just have the neighborhood project going on for the next 4-5 months and asshat new board members to deal with

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:22:22
You know it sorta pisses me off that the Right is calling for OBAMA to call out the left wing for making assumption.

1) I have the right to think what I want. It's called free will, I take that responsibility seriously.
2) He's the president, not a dictator.
3) They want Obama to scold people for exercising the right to free speech, which happens to be their justification for hate speech and inciting violence. These are NOT the same things as saying that the RW may have caused an environment that allowed this to happen.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 16:25:14
um,didn't Ahab die while chasing Moby Dick?

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:29:29
But, is Chris Wallace Vajazzled?



Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:29:58
Quote by wickedpam:
um,didn't Ahab die while chasing Moby Dick?
And thanks for playing REALLY bad analogies!


Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:30:43
MGM!

Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 16:31:38
Raine check ya emails

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:37:17
Quote by wickedpam:
Raine check ya emails
mmmkay. on my way!


Comment by livingonli on 01/19/2011 16:38:07
Good morning all.

Finally got a new home kit so I can listen to XM in the house which at least gives me something until I get a new car. Plus, I can now turn Momma on if I don't get right to my computer.

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:40:09
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Raine check ya emails
mmmkay. on my way!
send me the other one, if you can.



Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:43:01
I really appreciate what David Brock is saying.

Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 16:43:48
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Raine check ya emails
mmmkay. on my way!
send me the other one, if you can.




the other one? my bad pencil sketch?

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 16:45:41
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by Raine:
Quote by wickedpam:
Raine check ya emails
mmmkay. on my way!
send me the other one, if you can.




the other one? my bad pencil sketch?
yeah, that one.



Comment by BobR on 01/19/2011 16:46:06
Quote by Raine:
But, is Chris Wallace Vajazzled?


Is this worksafe?

Comment by wickedpam on 01/19/2011 16:48:30
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning all.

Finally got a new home kit so I can listen to XM in the house which at least gives me something until I get a new car. Plus, I can now turn Momma on if I don't get right to my computer.



see sometimes it just takes the little things for stuff to look up

Comment by livingonli on 01/19/2011 17:01:54
Quote by wickedpam:
Quote by livingonli:
Good morning all.

Finally got a new home kit so I can listen to XM in the house which at least gives me something until I get a new car. Plus, I can now turn Momma on if I don't get right to my computer.



see sometimes it just takes the little things for stuff to look up

And it sounds better than the crappy local AM although I still wish Momma was on that.

Comment by Scoopster on 01/19/2011 17:46:24
Afternoon all.. Not in the office today, someone replaced the overfilled water balloon inside my sinus cavity with a jaws-of-life.. needless to say I've been in bed most of the morning in some ridiculous pain.

Comment by Scoopster on 01/19/2011 18:34:08
http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/30549/stevekingreidhcr.jpg


Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 18:41:08
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http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/30549/stevekingreidhcr.jpg

This is proof IMO that the GOP led house is all about theatre.

What a frackin waste of time. Waste of money and waste of American energy.

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 18:50:03
Becuase just once every few years, I think we should be reminded of how far we have actually come....



Comment by Scoopster on 01/19/2011 18:56:11
Ahhh breakfast is done! Why can't Dunkin Donuts make an egg sammich like I can at home?

Comment by Scoopster on 01/19/2011 19:05:16
Look like there's a presser on now for Obama & Hu Jintao..

Comment by BobR on 01/19/2011 19:28:12
Quote by Raine:
Becuase just once every few years, I think we should be reminded of how far we have actually come....




oh good gawd, the whole planet must have thought we were all dense voting for that moran... What an embarassment

Comment by BobR on 01/19/2011 21:42:49
this is a little sad. I heard about this tradition about 15 years ago from my (now ex-)father-in-law, who lived in Baltimore.

Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 21:45:04
Uh oh. A winger on Randi right now. That said this caller is proving the idea of Stochastic Terrorism -- altho in this persons case, I would call it Stochastic communication.




Comment by Raine on 01/19/2011 21:46:31
Quote by BobR:
this is a little sad. I heard about this tradition about 15 years ago from my (now ex-)father-in-law, who lived in Baltimore.