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McCain wants Obama to Visit Columbia. Ok, Let's talk about Columbia (and John McCain)
Author: Raine    Date: 07/28/2008 07:34:36

In the Beginning of July , John McCain traveled to Columbia (the country). His purpose, according to reports, was to talk about illegal drugs and the promotion of CAFTA. While he was there, he met with cabinet members and business leaders... Most importantly, he met with President Uribe, (who came to power in 2002) allegedly to talk about the country's Human Rights record. Source

I mention this because yesterday, capt, a member of our blog, brought to light an interesting snippet from HuffPo. It was a CNN segment where a McCain representative suggested that Obama should visit other places that McCain has been, in particular, Columbia, South America. I quote "In fact, [Obama's] never met with President Uribe in Colombia, as John McCain has." This caught my eye. Many people focused a lot on Columbia that week early in July because John McCain's visit coincided with the release of 5 hostages (3 of which were Americans) after five years of FARC captivity. I will preface the rest of this with an opinion: FARC is not a nice group. This is not about FARC. FARC has been been trying to overthrow Columbia for quite some time. However... President Uribe is not someone we should be associating with, in my opinion. I hope you follow me here, because this gets interesting. Let's focus on the President of Columbia, the man that John McCain traveled to see, the man he wants to do business with, the man he NOW thinks Barack Obama should go visit. From Justice For Columbia, A human rights group based in London:
Uribe has worked for the Medellin Cartel and is a close personal friend of Pablo Escobar. He has participated in Escobar's political campaign…."

Perhaps unsurprisingly due to the links between the drugs traffickers and the paramilitaries Uribe also grew closer to those involved in the AUC paramilitary alliance. During his period as Governor of Antioquia, Uribe openly supported and financed local vigilante groups known as CONVIVIR. According to Human Rights Watch many CONVIVIR groups "were directed by known paramilitaries" whilst others "threatened to assassinate Colombians that were considered as guerrilla sympathizers of which rejected joining the [CONVIVIR]".
There is far more at the link, and I know Pablo is dead... however it's the paramiliatary aspect, more so than the drugs, that are disturbing me.

While Uribe and Washington would have the world believe that they are getting these paramilitary groups under control through *demobilization*, Columbia is actually in the process of "normalizing" these paramilitaristic death squads. Under Uribe leadership, thousands of citizens, activists and Union leaders have been murdered. They near the top of the worst of the worst when it comes to human rights....AmnestyUSA is concerned as well:
Since 2003, paramilitary groups, responsible for the vast majority of human rights violations in Colombia for over a decade, have been involved in a government-sponsored "demobilization" process. More than 25,000 paramilitaries have supposedly demobilized under a process which has been criticized by AI and other Colombian and international human rights groups, as well as by the OHCHR and the IACHR. The process is lacking in effective mechanisms for justice and in its inability to ensure that paramilitary members actually cease violent activities.

In fact, paramilitarism has not been dismantled, it has simply been "re-engineered." Many demobilized combatants are being encouraged to join "civilian informer networks," to provide military intelligence to the security forces, and to become "civic guards". Since many areas of Colombia have now been wrested from guerrilla control, and paramilitary control established in many of these areas, they no longer see a need to have large numbers of heavily-armed uniformed paramilitaries.

However, evidence suggests that many paramilitary structures remain virtually intact and that paramilitaries continue to kill. Amnesty International continues to document human rights violations committed by paramilitary groups, sometimes operating under new names, and often in collusion with the security forces.
All the talk of disbanding these paramiltiaries is NOT happening. From a 2005 Press Release, Amnesty International:
The government began demobilization talks with the paramilitary umbrella organization, the Self-Defence Forces of Colombia (Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia, AUC), soon after the AUC announced a ceasefire in December 2002. Under the Santa Fe de Ralito agreement, signed in July 2003, the AUC agreed to demobilize all its combatants by the end of 2005. More than 8,000 paramilitaries have so far reportedly demobilized.

However, the latest figures suggest that the paramilitaries have been responsible for at least 2,300 killings and “disappearances” since they declared their unilateral ceasefire.

You can google and find stories like this, As recently as March of this year, people have been killed, and this:
People are not being held accountable for the atrocities that are occuring NOW in Columbia.
Colombian government officials and the Bush Administration argue that Colombia is making strides in protecting unionists and prosecuting human rights violators. But despite the work of a courageous few, Colombia has failed to prosecute those responsible for murder, torture, and other abuses during the country's ongoing civil war. The country remains the most dangerous place in the world for trade unionists, with 98 percent of unionist murders going unpunished. Colombia's atrocious human rights record has led members of Congress to block a proposed U.S.-Colombia free trade agreement.
And John McCain WANTS to have CAFTA with these people. He wants normal relations with this country. A country that still traffics drugs, and kills it own citizens out of pure suspicion.

So, now we have McCain trying to push Obama to visit Columbia. For politics. It is telling (at the very least) that while he accuses Barack Obama of making the Iraq war political, McCain himself would make a country strife in Civil war with a murderous government a pawn in his political campaign. It should be obvious that Senator Obama sould not go to Columbia, and Senator John McCain should not have either... But we know WHY he did... it wasn't because he cares about Human Rights... if he REALLY cared about Human Rights, HE would NEVER have hired Charlie Black:
Since 1998, the lobbying firm headed until recently by Charlie Black, one of Mr. McCain’s closest confidants, has earned more than $1.8 million representing the Occidental Petroleum Corporation, the leading foreign producer of gas and oil in Colombia. The lobbying firm, BKSH & Associates, has also represented Colombian textile and apparel manufacturers and a former foreign minister and presidential candidate who is also a prominent businesswoman.
NOTE... He represented COMPANIES... the same companies that are having union leaders murdered by paramilitaries. John McCain did not go to Columbia for human rights, he didn't go out of a concern for drugs, or FARC.

Like I said earlier, FARC is no angel, but this isn't about them, this is about the kind of foriegn policy we will get with John McCain and this is about a country that lives in fear of the government, and the leader of that government. John McCain, a man who was tortured, should know better. Well, if he were anything but a neo-con, he would... but he is what he is, he is a man that is no better than Uribe, *ush, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Rove... the list goes on.

Here are a few extra Monday *cookies*, if you are still reading this:

In Case you were wondering... Who trained those paramilitaries? The United States of America did. We have been for a long time.

And -- those Hostages that were released while Senator McCain was visiting? Here is something else the media didn't follow up on. This was posted on our message board, April 28:
The governor state of New Mexico met on Saturday with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez in an effort to restart talks with neighboring Colombia to secure the release of hostages held by leftist rebels.

Chavez this year helped free six hostages held for years by the Marxist FARC rebels in Colombia's four-decade old civil war, but talks have sputtered amid continued bickering between Chavez and Colombian President Alvaro Uribe.

"I've had a good meeting with President Chavez ... (he) has told me that he is willing to help in this situation," Gov. Bill Richardson told reporters after the meeting.

"Many times in a conflict like this we forget the human side, that human beings are being held hostage."

High-profile hostages held by the FARC include French-Colombian politician Ingrid Betancourt and three U.S. anti-drugs contractors kidnapped after their helicopter crashed in the jungle in 2003.

Richardson, who was a U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and has helped release Americans held in Sudan, Iraq, North Korea and Cuba, was asked by the hostages' families to help seek their release. His mother is Mexican and he speaks fluent Spanish.

The leftist Chavez and right-wing Uribe have exchanged bitter accusations throughout the year, even during the hostage release negotiations.
Yes, that Bill Richardson.

I know it is a lot for a Monday morning. Really, I just thought you should know.

:peace: and :heart:
Raine

 

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Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 10:54:04
Good Morning!



Excellent post! It seems like McCain is all over the map. No message, no sense and no real plan. The McCain camp has turned into the nasal whining sneer. Good for Barack.



Still very dark here but today will be a great day.





Comment by clintster on 07/28/2008 11:23:53
Very good post, Raine, and disturbing. After associating ourselves with death squads in El Salvador in the 80s, you would think we would have learned our lesson, but it appears we could head into another such bleak period if McCain becomes President.



On a lighter note, this is my first day at my new job. I'm going to be a drama teacher! I'll talk more about it after school; sorry I won't be here for the SMS, but duty calls. Be good, do good work, and I'll see y'alls in the afternoon.

Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 11:29:09
Have a GREAT day Clintster!





Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 12:01:22
The youtubes will be McCains undoing.





Comment by Will in Chicago on 07/28/2008 12:06:20
Good morning, bloggers!!!



Raine, thanks for the interesting and disturbing post. We have to remember that contrary to what Calvin Coolidge said, what is best for America is NOT NECESSARILY what is best for America.



Clintster, congratulations on the new job. I have a job interview in two hours and likely another interview by phone. I hope to share some good news with everyone here soon.



Sorry that I have been away. I had a bit of the flu last week and a sore back from a pulled muscle. (Better now.)



The early version of the UNN Daily Headlines are up for those who want to take a look. (I hope to get some more help with them soon, and have less time to work on them as a full-time teacher.)

Comment by wickedpam on 07/28/2008 12:18:25
Morning :hug:



Clint what great news! And Will I know you'll be sharing good new soon also! :hug:

Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 12:19:38
Will!



Glad you're feeling better and best of luck on the interview(s).





Comment by BobR on 07/28/2008 12:30:07
Morning folks... :coffee:





Comment by Shane-O on 07/28/2008 12:42:27
Good morning!



I was a bit absent last week (a crazy one). I hope all are well...



Have a great first day Clintster!

Comment by TriSec on 07/28/2008 12:43:28
Morning, folks!



Working from home this am for another hour or so, then we're heading for Friendly Fenway Park!



:party:





Comment by BobR on 07/28/2008 12:47:40
oh yeah - congrats on the new gig Clinster, and good luck to Will...

Comment by Shane-O on 07/28/2008 12:48:52
Stunning info in your post, Raine. Some I knew about - most I did not. Thank you!



Another purely cynical aspect to McCain imploring Obama to travel overseas is the effect is has on campaigning...



McCain made a big spectacle/statement about how he would not attack "his opponent" while out of the U.S. - rightfully so - and Obama should do the same.



Wouldn't McCain love many, many days/weeks where Obama was out of the country so that McCain could take pot-shots at Obama while Obama was required to keep quiet about McCain...

Comment by BobR on 07/28/2008 12:49:42
Quote by TriSec:

Morning, folks!



Working from home this am for another hour or so, then we're heading for Friendly Fenway Park!



:party:





Going to a day game during a work day? Regardless of how the BoSox do, you're already a winner.



Or is this the thing that Javi won?



either way...

Comment by BobR on 07/28/2008 12:52:34
So the AJC DID publish my letter in this morning's paper. For those that missed it the first time (last week when I said they told me they would do so), here is the text of what they published:

All the recent calls for offshore drilling as a solution to gas prices fail to take into account the raison d'etre of oil companies. It is not to sell oil, it is to make as much profit as possible. Considering that Exxon made record profits last year without drilling for more oil, one has to wonder why it would be motivated to drill more. More oil would drive the prices down, which means they would make less money per barrel, all the while absorbing the additional costs of producing more oil.



Oil companies already have drilling leases for oil-rich land that they are not using, and there are thousands of acres in Alaska's National Petroleum Reserve that have yet to be leased. There is no shortage of available oil fields. The fact that the oil companies are not using them seems to reinforce the notion that producing oil is not their primary focus.



The only two solutions for driving down oil prices would be to force oil companies to drill more or to regulate the price and/or profit per barrel (which would in effect motivate them to drill more). Both ideas are anathema to "small-government" Republicans, who would rather use the talking point of offshore drilling as a political football than focus on a workable solution.



The issue at hand isn't opening more areas for drilling, it's getting the oil companies to drill in the areas already open.




Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 13:01:09
BobR!



How cool! Good letter.





Comment by m-hadley on 07/28/2008 13:05:31
Mornin' Everybody,

We lost power for about 6 hours yesterday afternoon - long enough for my house to turn into a sauna But it is partially back on today (I'm having problems getting one of my breakers to switch back on :P). Anway, excellent and very informative post Raine, and Congratulations Clintster (did you ever get the clips from Friday's show?) Knock 'em dead or should I say break a leg? Congrats also to BobR - nice piece in the AJC - which way does that paper swing? Lib or Con? Anyway, hope every body had a great weekend and are looking forward to an excellent week ahead...

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: & :peace:



:gobama:

Comment by wickedpam on 07/28/2008 13:08:46
Very cool Bob! :party:

Comment by wickedpam on 07/28/2008 13:11:04
Why does Seattle or Madison get all the good panels?

Comment by Raine on 07/28/2008 13:14:12
:coffee2: good morning!



Congrats on the great news Clint!



Will, I feel the good news coming your way... I do.



And bob!

Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 13:14:53
http://www.internetweekly.org/images/geritol_man.jpg


Comment by Raine on 07/28/2008 13:16:50
ugh. First caller... winger.

Comment by wickedpam on 07/28/2008 13:17:16


Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 13:17:22
"I think your show is races?"





Comment by Raine on 07/28/2008 13:17:51
:rofl: This guy needs to take some more Talking point lessons from Limpballs...

Comment by wickedpam on 07/28/2008 13:18:24
Dude if your gonna call with talking points don't stutter.

Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 13:20:53
Reich-wingnuts think if the foreigners don't hate us we aren't invading enough countries.



If they get ugly we can bomb them too!





Comment by BobR on 07/28/2008 13:22:54
Quote by m-hadley:

Mornin' Everybody,

We lost power for about 6 hours yesterday afternoon - long enough for my house to turn into a sauna But it is partially back on today (I'm having problems getting one of my breakers to switch back on :P). Anway, excellent and very informative post Raine, and Congratulations Clintster (did you ever get the clips from Friday's show?) Knock 'em dead or should I say break a leg? Congrats also to BobR - nice piece in the AJC - which way does that paper swing? Lib or Con? Anyway, hope every body had a great weekend and are looking forward to an excellent week ahead...

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug: & :peace:



:gobama:


Hey Faye - which breaker is it? You might need to turn some things off before being able to reset the breaker.



The AJC leans left, but they print some stuff that seems like they're "trying" to be balanced. Sometimes the two sides do NOT deserve equal time.

Comment by TriSec on 07/28/2008 13:29:34
Say Bob, is the letter online somewhere? You know we'd just love to see a link...





Fenway today is the meet and greet with Dustin Pedroia (thank God they won last night, now he won't be surly.)



I have Mrs. TriSec's digital camera, so I'll post some pics tonight.



We're heading for the sobway (intentionally misspelled, if you're familiar with the MBTA )



Everybody play nice!



Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 13:34:30
Comment by Raine on 07/28/2008 13:38:01
OMG... the show is a wreck this morning. Pobre Rebekkah! :hug:

Comment by wickedpam on 07/28/2008 13:51:28
Jean Stapleton?

Comment by BobR on 07/28/2008 13:52:28
A comment on today's blog post: Considering that tensions are high between Columbia and Venezuela, it's not surprising that the U.S. government is turning a blind eye to Columbia's human rights violations. Our government is probably just chomping at the bit for an excuse to invade Venezuela in a "show of support for our friends in Columbia".

Comment by starling310 on 07/28/2008 13:53:16
Quote by clintster:

On a lighter note, this is my first day at my new job. I'm going to be a drama teacher!




That is so awesome!

:clap:



Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 13:54:46
Quote by BobR:

A comment on today's blog post: Considering that tensions are high between Columbia and Venezuela, it's not surprising that the U.S. government is turning a blind eye to Columbia's human rights violations. Our government is probably just chomping at the bit for an excuse to invade Venezuela in a "show of support for our friends in Columbia".






That and union busting. A ton of the human rights violations (read murders) are of union organizers and union leaders. Last count I heard was 2,300?



UGH!

Comment by livingonli on 07/28/2008 13:55:15
Good morning everyone.



I ordered tickets last night so I am going to go see Shoot the Messenger tonight with both Lizz and Rachel. I will have to ask Rachel why she doesn't get to do Worst Person since Keith seems to hold onto that for dear life.



Congrats to Clintster and good luck with Will on those job prospects. And nice to see BobR's letter in the paper.

Comment by velveeta jones on 07/28/2008 13:55:21
Morning. *burp*





Comment by starling310 on 07/28/2008 13:55:36
Sooooooo....now John McCain is Obama into going to a country, that we probably shouldn't be associated with, and then if he DOES go there ( which he shouldn't at this point ) he will be criticized for dealing with "those kind of people" and people will conveniently forget the wRight's association with Columbia.

Comment by Raine on 07/28/2008 13:56:47
McCain missed every Armed Services Committee hearing In the last two years that discussed Afghanistan

A review of the Senate Armed Services Committee hearings as listed on the committee Web site for the past two years reveals that McCain’s committee has held six hearings that included the word “Afghanistan” in the title or Central Command — which overseas U.S. troops in Afghanistan. McCain missed them all.




McCain wanted media coverage, and this one actually comes from ABC, who, basically has endorsed John McCain.

Comment by m-hadley on 07/28/2008 13:59:34
Quote by Raine:

OMG... the show is a wreck this morning. Pobre Rebekkah! :hug:




I talked to sweet Rebekah this morning and she should be home in bed and I would gladly bring her some homemade chicken soup if she didn't live 1200 miles away :D

Cheers,

mfaye

:hug:



Comment by capt on 07/28/2008 14:02:38
From the Teamsters website:



Colombia remains the most dangerous country in the world for union members. More than 2,500 workers have been murdered by Colombian death squads for trying to form unions since the 1980s, and there have been more than 400 murders since President Uribe took office five years ago.







Comment by Raine on 07/28/2008 14:03:48
Quote by capt:

Quote by BobR:

A comment on today's blog post: Considering that tensions are high between Columbia and Venezuela, it's not surprising that the U.S. government is turning a blind eye to Columbia's human rights violations. Our government is probably just chomping at the bit for an excuse to invade Venezuela in a "show of support for our friends in Columbia".






That and union busting. A ton of the human rights violations (read murders) are of union organizers and union leaders. Last count I heard was 2,300?



UGH!
Political leaders... Church leaders... not to mention the the upwards of 4 million people estimated to have been *internally Displaced*.



The violence is forcing them to leave their homes, their farms and basically EVERYTHING behind...



Comment by velveeta jones on 07/28/2008 14:04:54
Quote by livingonli:

Good morning everyone.



I ordered tickets last night so I am going to go see Shoot the Messenger tonight with both Lizz and Rachel. I will have to ask Rachel why she doesn't get to do Worst Person since Keith seems to hold onto that for dear life.



Congrats to Clintster and good luck with Will on those job prospects. And nice to see BobR's letter in the paper.


Ask Rach when the F she's getting her own show, so I don't have to pretend to watch KO just to over her..............



Oops, is my wife on the blog today?



:blink:



Comment by Raine on 07/28/2008 14:08:21
Quote by capt:

From the Teamsters website:



Colombia remains the most dangerous country in the world for union members. More than 2,500 workers have been murdered by Colombian death squads for trying to form unions since the 1980s, and there have been more than 400 murders since President Uribe took office five years ago.







Yeah, and Joe LIEberman says that things are getting better down there!

Comment by velveeta jones on 07/28/2008 14:08:43
Oh crap! Jim's not in?



Its not the end of his contract is it? (Usually June or Sept).



:nervous:

Comment by Raine on 07/28/2008 14:12:37
:cheese: the show is a mess today, Chris had 2 hours sleep, Momma is still hungover (possibly drunk) Jim moved this weekend and could make it and Rebekah showed up late ( she is sick and sounds like she is going thru puberty)

Comment by BobR on 07/28/2008 14:13:05
Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh crap! Jim's not in?



Its not the end of his contract is it? (Usually June or Sept).



:nervous:


They said he was moving this weekend, so he may be buried under boxes...

Comment by livingonli on 07/28/2008 14:14:25
Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh crap! Jim's not in?



Its not the end of his contract is it? (Usually June or Sept).



:nervous:


I think he just partied too hard this weekend.

Comment by livingonli on 07/28/2008 14:17:21
Quote by BobR:

Quote by velveeta jones:

Oh crap! Jim's not in?



Its not the end of his contract is it? (Usually June or Sept).



:nervous:


They said he was moving this weekend, so he may be buried under boxes...


If I ever move, I would be buried under my piles of crap. I think I would need two weeks to move.

Comment by m-hadley on 07/28/2008 14:27:13
I feel like calling in and doing a chris crocker rant on Rebekah “Steph, you and the mooks should be glad that she even gets up every morning to answer your stinkin’ phones, you should be glad that she even shows up for you bastards!” But Chris and Momma made fun of that bit as being passe, so I think I’ll just share it here on the blog. Anyway, they are very lucky to have Rebekah - she rocks!

Cheers,

mfaye

:fbump: & :airhump:

Comment by livingonli on 07/28/2008 14:30:00
Rebekah is certainly a trooper coming in the condition she's in this morning.