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He Blames It on Me, He Blames it on you
Author: Raine    Date: 08/03/2023 12:43:56

There has been a lot to unpack this week. This afternoon TFG will be arraigned in DC. He's finally been indicted for the events of J6, along with 6 other unindicted co-conspirators. Let's talk about first, Rudy Giuliani.

From the indictment.
The first co-conspirator, described as “an attorney who was willing to spread knowingly false claims and pursue strategies that the Defendant’s 2020 re-election campaign attorneys would not,” appears to be Rudy Giuliani.

Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City who later became one of Trump’s attorneys, became a central figure in Trump’s post-election challenges, each of which failed to gain any traction in court.

The indictment discusses Giuliani’s actions at length, alleging he pressured lawmakers in multiple states to overturn the election results based on false claims of fraud.

Here is what he said on January 6, at the ellipse in DC. (you only need to watch the first minute)


The rest of the afternoon, we would witness an attempted coup of the government and the rights of Americans to have their votes counted.

Rudy has done this before. More than 30 years ago, he led what some would call police riots in NYC. David Dinkins was mayor, and Rudy was a failed mayoral candidate. Dinkins, was the first Black Mayor of NYC, btw. Rudy led the charge.
The day of the protest, Rudy Giuliani was also outside the building with a microphone. Giuliani, a former U.S. Attorney and failed mayoral candidate in 1989, declared, “The reason the morale of the police department of the City of New York is so low is one reason and one reason alone: David Dinkins!” The crowd roared.

“The mayor doesn’t know why the morale of the police department is so low,” Giuliani said. “He blames it on me. He blames it on you. Bullshit!” Giuliani then attacked an anti-corruption commission impaneled by Dinkins, which he said was created “to protect David Dinkins’s political ass.” More cheers rose from the crowd.

(snip)

This was the beginning of an outburst of violence that, for various reasons, has been all but scrubbed from New York’s historical memory. It not only involved Mayor Dinkins but was a formative experience for two future mayors and the city’s likely next mayor — who back then was a 32-year-old transit-police officer. “It’s almost equivalent to what we saw at the Capitol,” Eric Adams told me recently, referring to the Trump-inspired insurrection on January 6.

(snip)

But as the days passed, the atmosphere changed. Caruso, the PBA president, was defiant. Giuliani, far from fearing the riot’s impact on his political future, was ecstatically happy about his participation in it.

“One of the reasons those police officers might have lost control is that we have a mayor who invites riots,” Giuliani told reporters a few days later. He said he felt empathy for the police officers, not the people frightened by them. “I had four uncles who were cops,” he said. “So maybe I was more emotional than I usually am.”


About 9 years later, there would be another event in NYC, one of a much larger scale, on September 11. It was right in the middle of election season. While people were busy being fascinated at the by-then Mayor, he was busy trying to have elections canceled, because, well, 9/11.
At a press conference with Giuliani and then-Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi at Manhattan’s Pier 92 on Sept. 24, 2001, the former mayor reportedly asked for a private meeting with Pataki where he “dropped a bomb” by asking the governor to extend his term limit, which was set to expire that year.

Pataki initially supported the idea of repealing term limits so Giuliani could remain in office but then decided it was a “bad idea both as a matter of principle and politically.”

“Are you really, right now, after a terror attack on our state, our city, asking me to just cancel the entire election? I am a conservative. We respect the law. For God’s sake, you’re a prosecutor! You know the law,” Pataki thought to himself.

However, Giuliani told the New York Daily News in a phone interview that although “there were people who wanted me to do it,” he “never asked [Pataki] to do it. I never made the decision to do it.”


I bolded those two things because that is exactly what the TFG is saying. He was just listening to what people were telling him and that he was doing this for his supporters. Rudy might be crazy, but he is dangerous.

Oh, that first video? Remember that Rudy asked for 10 days. It's really important because Eastman is another co-conspirator. The 10 days thing was his idea.
“So now that the precedent has been set that the Electoral Count Act is not quite so sacrosanct as was previously claimed, I implore you to consider one more relatively minor violation and adjourn for 10 days to allow the legislatures to finish their investigations,” Eastman wrote in the email presented during the hearing by the committee.
You know who else would object to the certification asking for ten days to do an audit?

A number of GOP Senators, led by Ted Cruz.

Rudy should have been held responsible for inciting a riot over 30 years ago, but he wasn't. January 6 had a blueprint, and Rudy had it all along. He found his tribe in the years that ensued and insurrection was the inevitable outcome.

I want them all held accountable.

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Raine
 

11 comments (Latest Comment: 08/03/2023 18:13:49 by BobR)
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Comment by Raine on 08/03/2023 13:12:31
Video (TL;Don't watch)

PBS News Hour has it.
Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, called for lawmakers to appoint an electoral commission to investigate accusations of election fraud in the 2020 presidential election, despite statements from election officials and Attorney General Bill Barr saying they found no evidence of widespread election fraud. Cruz said the commission could conduct a 10-day emergency audit to consider evidence and make a determination.

"For those on the Democratic aisle who say, 'There is no evidence, they've been rejected,' then you should rest in comfort. If that's the case, an electoral commission would reject these claims," Cruz said on the Senate floor after lawmakers objected to the electoral votes from Arizona during a joint session of Congress.

The session, a necessary and usually routine step in the presidential election process, is in the spotlight this year because dozens of Republicans in the House and Senate are objecting to results in some states.

President-elect Joe Biden won the election with 306 Electoral College votes after states certified their results, but President Donald Trump and many of his supporters have refused to accept his loss, making false claims of widespread voter fraud.

Now, Trump’s staunchest allies in Congress are making a last attempt to dispute the result, forcing hours of debate in both chambers. But a bipartisan majority of lawmakers have said they are prepared to accept Biden’s win.


Comment by Raine on 08/03/2023 13:16:55


Comment by Raine on 08/03/2023 13:22:03
Something else Rudy has in common with TFG...
Government rules discourage the city's most powerful officeholder from departing with more than token gifts collected on the job. Ed Koch, mayor from 1978 to 1989, recalls keeping some neckties. His successor, David Dinkins, walked away with knickknacks from his desk, including a crystal tennis ball and a collection of photographs documenting his meetings with celebrities and business icons.

When Giuliani stepped down, he needed a warehouse.

Under an unprecedented agreement that didn't become public until after he left office, Giuliani secreted out of City Hall the written, photographic and electronic record of his eight years in office — more than 2,000 boxes.

Along with his own files, the trove included the official records of Giuliani's deputy mayors, his chief of staff, his travel office and Gracie Mansion — the mayor's residence that became a legal battlefront during his caustic divorce.


Comment by Raine on 08/03/2023 13:22:28
I couldn't fit all this ish into the blog...

Comment by Raine on 08/03/2023 13:30:00
I guess I was wrong about Ginni Thomas.

I didn't have Boris on my Bingo card.




Comment by BobR on 08/03/2023 14:28:14
It will likely take several more years to untangle the web of conspiracies woven by the TFG and his Russia-connected cohorts

Comment by Will_in_Ca on 08/03/2023 15:26:56
Good morning, bloggers!!!!!

I think that Rudy Giuliani has shown that power is his ultimate goal. Now, he is likely to face charges or is selling out TFG despite his promises of loyalty.

We are going to see a lot of news on this story. The defense being offered is ridiculous. If a person speaks and encourages violence, that is incitement. I look forward to this argument being ripped to shreds.




Comment by Will_in_Ca on 08/03/2023 15:32:53
I have good news!!!

Yesterday, I interviewed with a school for 48 minutes for an English teacher position. This school in many ways resembles the Catholic school I was at last fall in terms of academic excellence and having a good atmosphere.

I was offered the job in an email late last night and I will accept. Thanks to everyone here for your support over the years.

Comment by Raine on 08/03/2023 15:48:39


Comment by Raine on 08/03/2023 15:49:21
Quote by Will_in_Ca:
I have good news!!!

Yesterday, I interviewed with a school for 48 minutes for an English teacher position. This school in many ways resembles the Catholic school I was at last fall in terms of academic excellence and having a good atmosphere.

I was offered the job in an email late last night and I will accept. Thanks to everyone here for your support over the years.
YAY!!!




Comment by BobR on 08/03/2023 18:13:49
Quote by Raine:

I love that he's embracing this and taking all the power out of the whole "Brandon" thing